Disney Stock Price

[Trauma]

I’m not anti-stock…

I’m anti Disney being run to quarterlies…it doesn’t fit the product and will be the death of them…but different subject altogether

Stocks make sense. If I buy a share for $50…the company applies that “credit” through a variety of means to finance their production…to make more money. Pretty basic.
Then when I sell…I get the value over the purchase price as my “interest”/ reward for the time my original money was tied up.

Dividends…are not that. It’s the bankers delight: money paid on a schedule regardless of time or initial money invested.

Which means it’s dangerous. A reminder: the most powerful/destructive drug in the history of the world is the human for the American dollar…
…until something worse comes along

I think it’s dangerous for more reasons than you even stated but nothing you said here is wrong.

 

[larryz]

You're right... employees shouldn't get paid salaries either. Instead, they should put all their effort in, and pray for appreciation and get a payout when they leave the company. If they're right, they win. If they're wrong, they lose.

Salaries are dumb.

Huh?

 

[flynnibus]

Like D+ ?

D+ is just a portion of the business. Something possible without outside investment because of the size and stability of the rest of the company.

 

[CastAStone]

Are you asking this in good faith or do you just lack a basic understanding of how things work?

It it’s the latter I can point you towards some good resources that can help you learn the basics.

I’ll make you a deal. You loan me $10,000. We sign something that I will never ever pay you anything, but you “own” the loan. You can sell the loan to someone else but the deal is that I’ll never pay them anything either. If I go bankrupt you lose the loan. Wanna make the deal?

 

[Trauma]

I’ll make you a deal. You loan me $10,000. We sign something that I will never ever pay you anything, but you “own” the loan. You can sell the loan to someone else but the deal is that I’ll never pay them anything either. If I go bankrupt you lose the loan. Wanna make the deal?

Well that sounds like fun, but that’s not what’s happening when you buy shares in $DIS.

 

[flynnibus]

The world where people only trade stocks...

The world is not all growth stocks for a reason. And it's not 'bankers fantasies' or other non-sense.

It's like you all can't see anything before the advent of electronic trading... or the centuries of investment before that.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So owners shouldn’t get paid until they sell the business?

If it takes 10 years to make it successful they don’t earn a penny of income during that time?

Oh man…not you too? Sumpin’ in the water this week…

No of course not.

The company pays the staff, the bills and the owners (but at reasonable rates…which is the “theoretical problem”)…and then they make money BEYOND that to pay the stock. And if they do…the stock has real value. It’s a meritocracy.

Besides…”owners” that need paid are private - no stock. No large public company has an “owner” looking for income verification by the dealer for their next Lambo

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

We have enough red herrings here to feed Sweden.

 

[Trauma]

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Oh man…not you too? Sumpin’ in the water this week…

No of course not.

The company pays the staff, the bills and the owners (but at reasonable rates…which is the “theoretical problem”)…and then they make money BEYOND that to pay the stock. And if they do…the stock has real value. It’s a meritocracy.

Besides…”owners” that need paid are private - no stock. No large public company has an “owner” looking for income verification by the dealer for their next Lambo

Income verification? I just pay cash for my S class.

To much snow around here for a Lambo.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Huh?

The king of pickled herring is tossing it all against the wall trying to see if it’ll stick?

…but the really silly thing is this is all just opinion about possibilities and history…
Which makes for good discussion if you have skin that doesn’t resemble a cactus

 

[Trauma]

The king of pickled herring is tossing it all against the wall trying to see if it’ll stick?

…but the really silly thing is this is all just opinion about possibilities and history…
Which makes for good discussion if you have skin that doesn’t resemble a cactus

You’re not usually this aggressive towards posters. Even ones you don’t like to much, like me.

What did Flynn do to you ? Lol

Can you two hug it out?

 

[CastAStone]

Well that sounds like fun, but that’s not what’s happening when you buy shares in $DIS.

Correct, because Disney pays dividends.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You’re not usually this aggressive towards posters. Even ones you don’t like to much, like me.

What did Flynn do to you ? Lol

Can you two hug it out?

We all have our schtick that annoys people from time to time.

I hammer Disney and throw barbs at adults who cost me…and everyone…more for declining product because they don’t consider it a consumer product like others. Falling for the schtick I used to actually Dabble in a bit long ago.

Breakfast isn’t an “experience”…it’s food you drop after dinner with perhaps…a photo op you can look at later. That shouldn’t be a hostage situation for your wallet. Disney parks were best when they balanced high price and the quest for loyals customers…

Guess who DOESN’T do that? Building a timeshare and then beating you over the head with the Stanford economic grad school isn’t good business. My opinion.

So why am I hear? I appreciate the history and quality of Disney stuff. And I still enjoy a lot of it. But I’ll tell you my opinion of what’s good and why I think so…and tell you my opinion of what’s not good in the short and long term and then try to build a case of hard info and patterns that justify why I think it’s bad.

It’s not that convoluted. I just waste much time on it.

Flynn normally doesn’t trigger the sensors…but we are all flawed occasionally.

I don’t typically mind most…even you

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Correct, because Disney pays dividends.

Actually it does not…because even this bad management couldn’t justify trying to sell it…

And why? We are now years into a pretty bad trending fallout from failed Robert Iger management.

Wish someone would have told me to look out for that sooner

 

[Trauma]

Correct, because Disney pays dividends.

No.

That has nothing to do with it.

I’m driving in the rain can someone respond to this?

If not I will later, but no.

 

[CastAStone]

No.

That has nothing to do with it.

I’m driving in the rain can someone respond to this?

If not I will later, but no.

I don’t need an “education” from some internet rando about how business works. Thanks tho.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Don’t worry. Bob said there’s never been a better time to be a Disney fan and he’s back to fix it all. Or something

…well this aged well

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

No.

That has nothing to do with it.

I’m driving in the rain can someone respond to this?

If not I will later, but no.

Stock - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Trauma]

I don’t need an “education” from some internet rando about how business works. Thanks tho.

Ok well at least get it somewhere.


Edit :

This post was inappropriate I’m trying to be better person on these forums.

I apologize for it, I found your response slightly combative and probably warranted due to our previous interactions.

What I should have said is I think you are missing one detail that is small but important. I’m still driving, but I felt bad enough about my stupid post to write all this.

I’ll get to the minor detail later.

Sorry again.

 

[networkpro]

I’m not anti-stock…

I’m anti Disney being run to quarterlies…it doesn’t fit the product and will be the death of them…but different subject altogether

Blame the required form 10-q