'Disney Springs' - Downtown Disney expansion officially announced

shannon12

Active Member
I just don't get what kind of truck they can be offering with two burger restaurants ( shake shack and Disney burger) I'm sure they won't have a burger truck. So what are you left with ? Tacos, meatballs?
I don't know, they sell EVERYTHING off food trucks in the city. Pizza, Ice Cream, Tacos, falafel, waffles, cheese steaks, other mexican food, salads, cupcakes etc. You name it there is a food truck around you can find lol.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I just don't get what kind of truck they can be offering with two burger restaurants ( shake shack and Disney burger) I'm sure they won't have a burger truck. So what are you left with ? Tacos, meatballs?

I had the best gyro I have ever had in my life from a food truck in NYC. Amazing, my stomache is growling just thinking about it. I think the food trucks are a great way to get more exotic type things that you may not want to dedicate an entire restaurant to:

1). Greek is the first thing that comes to mind. Gyros, hummus, kabobs
2) Since I'm from Philly a cheesesteak truck would make a lot of sense (a Philly food truck with cheesesteaks and roast pork sandwiches and they could throw in real soft pretzels and tasty cakes too).
3). Mexican is always popular from food trucks. Burritos, fish tacos, etc..
4). Chinese food. Dumplings, egg rolls, combo plates with rice and entree
5). Sushi and Japanese food. Not sure they would risk sushi but it could be done
6). Pizza - everyone likes pizza
7). Something healthy and all natural. Wraps, salads, veggies with dip, good stuff for vegetarians.
8). Meat truck. Roast beef, pork chops, rotisserie chicken, etc... With good sides too
9). Soup and salad truck. Soup in FL may not work with the heat, but is popular up in the NE. Bread bowls with the soup served in them, soup and salad combos, different soups every day. I would have the workers play up the soup nazi thing from Seinfeld - just make sure people know its a joke.
10). Zeppole or funnel cake or fried dough, whatever you call it. Actually they could do an entire fried dessert truck. Fried dough, donuts, fried Oreo cookies, fried snickers bars, fried twinkles. Pretty much like some fairs and carnivals deep fat fry anything and sell it. Probably put this one on the opposite side of the health food truck.

There's your 10 trucks. Now the problem is picking just 5 to put in Disney Springs;).
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
The cool thing about this is that there won't be any gray area and one of us will be proven right and the other wrong. And we won't have to wait long. My position is that there will be some sort of 'natural' water feature or 'spring' in the West End and there will be some train theming (obviously) but neither will be associated with Florida. So 'springs' will be found throughout "Disney Springs" but every neighborhood will not have a Florida backstory. Just wanted to make my opinion clear which I now have. IMO. :D

This should be fun. And I will remember to remind you when the day comes. Until then.......
Did you not see the art illustrating the "growth" of Disney Springs?
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
It includes the West Side...

Yes, Staggs does say West Side will be included in the overall project but I am sure he means on the macro-level and not as it pertains to back story or a specific theme. That is my opinion and I could be wrong. Time will tell.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Yes, Staggs does say West Side will be included in the overall project but I am sure he means on the macro-level and not as it pertains to back story or a specific theme. That is my opinion and I could be wrong. Time will tell.
The series of images I am referencing illustrate the "growth" as it pertains to the backstory, not the actual development of the Lake Buena Vista Shopping Village into Downtown Disney and beyond.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
The series of images I am referencing illustrate the "growth" as it pertains to the backstory, not the actual development of the Lake Buena Vista Shopping Village into Downtown Disney and beyond.

Still not sure what you mean by "growth". Possibly you refer to a backstory or backstories that explain how each "neighborhood" grew up around a water source (natural spring).

Some people have suggested that DHS be divided up into separate "Studios" and that could be a common unifying thread between each "land". Even though each land would be unique in place setting they would share the common bond of being movie studios.

I am suggesting something similar may be in the works for Disney Springs. Each "neighborhood" could have unique backstories and place setting but each will involve an origin story based on a natural spring as a common bond. Now, think about the title of the new area. It is not Disney Florida. It is Disney Springs. This allows for a lot of flexibility in place setting. IMO.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Still not sure what you mean by "growth". Possibly you refer to a backstory or backstories that explain how each "neighborhood" grew up around a water source (natural spring).

Some people have suggested that DHS be divided up into separate "Studios" and that could be a common unifying thread between each "land". Even though each land would be unique in place setting they would share the common bond of being movie studios.

I am suggesting something similar may be in the works for Disney Springs. Each "neighborhood" could have unique backstories and place setting but each will involve an origin story based on a natural spring as a common bond. Now, think about the title of the new area. It is not Disney Florida. It is Disney Springs. This allows for a lot of flexibility in place setting. IMO.
It illustrates the backstory of how the area developed. I'm not sure how much more simply it can be stated. If you want to believe nonsense, then go for it; its not like you'll ever experience it.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
We wouldn't even be having this discussion about thematic errors if Disney didn't try to force a backstory onto a freakin' mall.

Yes, but that's the double edged sword Disney faces. If you skip any backstory or overall theme for the area and just build a freakin' mall then a lot of people would complain that it's nothing different than what they have back home and not unique at all and say they expect better from Disney. If you try to have a theme and a backstory and make it more than just a bunch of generic buildings housing stores and restaurants people complain that the backstory is lame. Either way you can't please everyone. I prefer some consistent theming in the overall area and IMHO the backstory works to help create the environment. It's not perfect, but it's much better than a generic mall.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
It illustrates the backstory of how the area developed. I'm not sure how much more simply it can be stated. If you want to believe nonsense, then go for it; its not like you'll ever experience it.

Yes, I agree. Each "neighborhood" will have a story about how that area developed. I will be a regular at Disney Springs. No doubt about it.
 

the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
Getting back on track...
I thought it would interesting to compare the high line and how it interacts with the surrounding buildings to the High line clone in the west side of Disney Springs. This will also be an opportunity to bash WDI for adding too much backstory to their environments without properly creating the environment they claim to be creating. While @articos has correctly pointed out that there were no elevated railways in Florida, I'll put that aside for my comparison. I want to use some images of the highline to show how it is part of the space. The high line was originally used to transport meat and produce. It had enclosed stops, like the Chelsea market, which have now been rused as large public spaces in the high line park.
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Here are some examples of buildings that were built with the park in mind.
The Standard Hotel
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Building being constructed with High Line Phase 3
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So both old and new buildings have been built with this structure as an artery of the area. From what we've seen, WDI and the Americana firm have failed/possibly not given enough funds to make their elevated railway be an integral part of the west side. It is essentially a very expensive decoration, NOT THEMING.
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A trolley would've been cooler IMHO.
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flavious27

Well-Known Member
Meh, elevated traintracks aren't pretty to begin with. I think dear mr. Sotto opened a pandora's box when he proposed that elevated train for DLP MS, an idea that sadly never left WDI's consciousness again.

The thing is, in cities that do have elevated trains, these I think are commonly considered an eyesore more than anything else. They belong to industrial areas, to working class neighbourhoods. The fancy, upscale neighbourhoods have their trains and subways (metro/underground) running underground.
Even modern gentrification and repurposing of elevated tracks (I think the idea originated in Paris, before New York) doesn't really turn them into spaces with much more going for them than novelty.

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They only become eyesores when they are not maintained and need to be painted.
 

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