Lee
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West Side, near the water.
I don't have the plans in front of me, but I seem to recall them being between Bongos and the future Starbucks. In the little open space there.
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I don't have the plans in front of me, but I seem to recall them being between Bongos and the future Starbucks. In the little open space there.
Thanks for the info!
And, is that a confirmed Starbucks location (either in between Wolfgang Puck and Bongos, or Bongos and Wetzels Pretzels/Haagan Dazs (according to the map, a current Disney Rewards VISA Application Center) - presuming the latter, as that is currently a green area on the map apart from the VISA Logo...
Alektronic
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When I think of "old" Florida, I always think about food trucks. Is it part of the theming or an cheap alternative?
Lee
Adventurer
The plans I have show Starbucks taking over the pretzel building. The trucks would move into the little park area.
(If I'm remembering correctly...)
Thanks for the info - Wetzels Pretzels also has a stall in the Marketplace at the moment, so it's not a real loss at the moment (of course, the Marketplace location could also go if they are knocking down the smaller locations over there (like Disney Pin Traders)
At least if you have a plan with some "new vendors" listed, it "confirms" that they already have some vendors interested (although Starbucks could easily have been in with the one location per park deal) - I'm going to try not to ask you for the names of other vendors on the plans though...
jt04
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Look at the art work. West Side will be anything but old florida.
Lee
Adventurer
The plans really don't show any vendors, other than labeling that one building as Starbucks.
My question would be, in terms of the "75+" new shops/restaurants, would "Food Truck Row" be counted as "1 restaurant", leaving "74+" new shops/restaurants, or would each truck be counted as 1, leaving only "65+" new shops/restaurants remaining unannounced (1 of which seems to be Starbucks)?
lazyboy97o
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I think another big factor is that Disney just assumes their audience is too ignorant to know the difference. It's why Main Street, USA gets a brighter and more saturated color palette. Why 1920s Los Angeles is bookended by the 1930s. And why the industrial north can masquerade as Florida.
the.dreamfinder
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lazyboy97o
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Good point. Disney would never do it due to the risk and lesser rents, but a certain authenticity would be added if Disney was willing to develop a program aimed at making Disney Springs a sort of hub of local business ventures.
articos
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Think of it this way - the new areas will be highly themed, as they're built to the new story. The existing areas will get a light overlay to tie everything together. New paint, signage, graphics and elements to evoke the theme (i.e, light posts, scenic props, etc.) In the case of the West Side, with the shade structure, that's a major element added in that will also include new signage and lighting. The buildings that are highly themed stay mostly or completely as is, i.e., Splitsville, Bongos, Cirque, HoB - but buildings like DisneyQuest get an overlay to make it more like a warehouse that's been taken over for DQ, instead of a building built for DQ. That's the intent. Don't worry about it all being one-note, each zone will still have its own identity - Village is staying mostly intact with a fresh coat of paint, and the buildings won't really change. Sandwich is getting a big redo to improve traffic flow, add seating and central air, as has been reported. Pollo gets demolished. WoD gets bigger. West Side gets some thematic makeover, and won't be modern and contemporary, more warehouse/industrial. The area that's now PI will be somewhat unrecognizable when it's done, though. The quiet area is supposed to be the Spring (Gateway), although with the traffic in and out there, it may be busier than planned. The Village is a family friendly shopping area, The Landing is a lively dining zone and West Side is more lively with the theatre, HoB, food trucks, etc.
Don't get too wrapped up in the concept art. There's a reason we call it 'concept' art. The only reason the marketplace looks like it's taking advantage of the hotels is because the artist who drew it thought it looked good. None of the buildings are moving within the footprint of the Village, aside from Sandwich's minor changes and the demo of Pollo/expansion of WoD. Capt'n Jack's reuse is tbd. With the new zones, yes, sightlines are taken into account to minimize intrusion with the rest. There are enough new buildings being constructed that you won't be able to really see the scope of the complex from within - it's going have a lot of spaces to explore, which is good.
Honestly, both. For the West Side, it fits the theming, it's a trendy thing to do now, and it's a cheap alternative.
You know, I don't think it's a conscious assumption. It's just a general laziness within WDI and Disney in general when working on a tight schedule and budget to say "well, they'll never realize, it's good enough". Talking about both the guest and the boss. And...they're unfortunately right.
Does anyone know if Pollo Campero will be moving locations, or not have a location in Disney Springs at all?
It has also been said that Disney Pin Traders is being knocked down, but I would assume that it will simply move to a new building...
Alektronic
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So how do the food trucks fit in? When I think of food trucks, it is at a temporary event, intended to be mobile so they can moved to another temporary roadside event. Almost like a tacky roadside carnival, it reminds me too much of Dino-Rama at AK. It is good for temporary use but not a planned permanent location.
articos
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Wetzels would move, not leave. They have a lot of new space to offer up.
PhotoDave219
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We can agree that you are #NotonFire.
Beyond that, you really don't get the inner workings of this company, do you?
I didn't know whether they would just go down to 1 location (Marketplace) or whether they would move to a new location - if Wetzels is moving, I was guess that Haagen Dazs is moving as well?