RSoxNo1
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I believe the Disneyland structure is larger, isn't it?
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'Disney Springs' - Downtown Disney expansion officially announced
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tracyandalex
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Agreed
OFTeric
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it is number 4 http://www.forbes.com/2008/04/10/pa..._0410parking_slide_5.html?thisSpeed=undefined
No it isn't just go through the Forbes link
TP2000
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Thank you! This interview with Staggs answers a lot of my questions posed by this announcement and this thread, plus a nice little piece of info from Staggs on the non-status of Avatarland.
To sum up Staggs: No vendors to announce. Lots of "conversations" with potential vendors, but absolutely nothing to announce. Nothing to say or not say about Avatarland's status or non-status. And they've got 'til 2016 to come up with actual details for the mall. Thanks for flying out Mr. Staggs!
I just hope there's as many trees in the actual mall as are shown in the vague-ish concept art. A shame they have no internal transport system for this large and sprawling mall, trolleys or boats, that seems to be the only major miss with Disney Springs. And I hope they can get some good restaurants in there that aren't the usual microwaved-starch junk for 12 year olds from the likes of Rainforest Café, Planet Hollywood, TRex, etc.
Otherwise, the expanded mall looks pleasant enough, and I don't mind the name change to the harmless Disney Springs.
TP2000
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The Disneyland parking structure is 10,000+ indoor or rooftop spaces on six levels, with a few hundred outdoor bus spaces alongside it.
This is it back in 2000, when it was brand new, and before all the trees grew in. It's very difficult to get this full perspective now due to the mature foliage. Photo taken from the flyover bridge from the Santa Ana Freeway that leads directly to/from the structure.
muteki
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To be fair, I believe there was a bit of prep work/demolition that followed the Hyperion announcement too. My memory might be fuzzy but I am pretty sure dirt was moving back then as well.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Permit filed today which I assume is for this project:
Lot 3, 1472 Buena Vista Drive #3 - Provide labor, material and/or electrical for construction
Most interesting part if the expiration date of 12/31/2017.
Lot 3, 1472 Buena Vista Drive #3 - Provide labor, material and/or electrical for construction
Most interesting part if the expiration date of 12/31/2017.
flynnibus
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yes - it's how we got the wonderful green meadows of PI! :/
DocMcHulk
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Not exactly the same sport, but, Google Street ViewThe Disneyland parking structure is 10,000+ indoor or rooftop spaces on six levels, with a few hundred outdoor bus spaces alongside it.
This is it back in 2000, when it was brand new, and before all the trees grew in. It's very difficult to get this full perspective now due to the mature foliage. Photo taken from the flyover bridge from the Santa Ana Freeway that leads directly to/from the structure.
dcibrando
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End date there is just to cover the "uh oh" scenario
jdmdisney99
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Looks great!
71jason
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Not likely. In order to survive the huge rents Disney wants, you need high-margin food and quick table turn-over. I think it's easier to mark up burgers and fries and surround it with dinosaurs to justify the price then to mark up filet and lobster and try to justify it--different target crowd. Those 12-and-unders are less discriminating. And higher end restaurants means longer meals, which means less turn-over.
Also, the "good" restaurants already in DTD are rarely packed. Adding, say, another half-dozen will just cannabalize the market further. DTD is not Restaurant Row (as TDO found out with the ill-conveived "PI 2.0" plan). For better or worse, WDW has decied to gear itself toward people with little kids and fanbois who are the reason over half the restaurants on property have some kind of burger/fries option.
If you really want good restaurants, you've outgrown WDW, it's time to start staying up by Sand Lake Road. Luckily, there happens to be a theme park up that way that a lot of people seem to rave about...
I don't believe that to be true.
Construction was halted due to the tremendous drop in tourism following the 9/11 attacks.
OFTeric
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I thought the plan that TDO came up with was lower rent but a MUCH larger Revenue share with the businesses.
Genie of the Lamp
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So I'm guessing/assuming Kathy Mangum will be the WDI lead director for this project?
No way. They'll need to start work on the Marketplace garage immediately because the PI lot will need to be open while they're working on the Marketplace garage or else there won't be any parking at all on that entire side of DTD.
Meaning, they won't be able to close the PI lot, and work on the Town Center portion of the addition, until the Marketplace garage is done.
The West Side garage may actually be the very last thing they do.
jt04
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Many people are commenting that it looks generic and assuming we have all the information on the Disney designed features being added when in fact I am sure they are holding a lot back. Just as they have done with the Shanghai project. Just as Universal has done with Potter 2.0 which is well underway but has not been officially announced. If a certain spirit was at war with Uni like he is with Disney he would be saying how troubled the potter project is because they have not officially announced what will be inside the buildings and infrastructure that is underway.
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