Captain Neo
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whats the difference between this and hyperion wharf?
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'Disney Springs' - Downtown Disney expansion officially announced
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GLaDOS
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Just Staggs, no George from what I've seen. And yes, Staggs took questions afterward. Attractions Magazine, Orlando Sentinel, Mousesteps, and I think another news outlet were in attendance.
WDW1974
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Projects like this always tout jobs. The best jobs will be for the folks who build the project. Construction jobs may be blue collar, but they certainly pay. ... The permanent jobs ... well, some will be decent. If you're managing a top dining locale or shopping outpost, but most will be just like your typical mall jobs.
SirLink
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1)Supposedly a room over Splittsville where they were negotiating with new tenants - or that is the "story" that is being served.
2)Nope Georgie K - supposedly the two Tom's and Kathy
3)Yes Staggs took questions - made a joke about Capt. Jacks joining LTM promotion.
4)Dunno
5)Attraction Magazine was there I believe certain fan sites weren't there, but regurgitated info from Attractions Magazine as their own.
WDW1974
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Um ... there's a reason why Disney stopped offering bus service from DD to the parks. Too many people were using DD as free parking ... they aren't going to go back on that.
From Twitter, I know Lou and Attractions Mag were there as well as Garcia. From these pictures it looked.... quaint.... and involved bowling.
https://twitter.com/Attractions/status/312199954259140608/photo/1 (Restoration Hardware?)
https://twitter.com/Attractions/status/312208364174184450/photo/1
tissandtully
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WDW1974
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SirLink
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This time we have seen a model.
A 2016 completion date? (I can't remember what the Hyperion Wharf date was...)
GLaDOS
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2013.
WDW1974
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Thanks. Quite telling.
Did 16-19 months ever so seem doable, though?
3 years from beginning to end, for a project of this size and scope seems about right. Seems ambitious, even, given current/recent construction timelines.
flFigment
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So this is the answer to the "Bold New Vision" they promised when they closed Pleasure Island?
Call me very unimpressed and lacking in the enthusiasm department for a project that will take till 2016 to be completed. Actually I believe that the project will be like many many other projects as of late from TDO. What ever happened to the bold new vision #1, #2, Hyperian wharf, how about that Walmart shopping district they said was coming ( I am so glad that never launched), How about Avatar, the list goes on and on from them.
I see this announcement as another form of TDO having an idea getting people hyped a little to forget about the fact they haven't added a new daytime parade in years, they have cut things every year in almost every aspect, they have increased prices astronomically, what was the last NEW thing they added to Walt Disney World that doesn't have a direct line MBA mentality attached to it.
I understand the spreading the cost of the project over years for the business aspect. I have a better idea how about having enough confidence in your product that you actually step up to the plate when it is being released or at least have a faster turn around time on things so people think it is still relevant.
I move that TDO Orlando scrap this idea of building a bold new vision mall that has NOTHING to do with Disney that seems to be nothing more than the Villages placed in Central Florida. Take the money that you were going to spend on this and fix the attractions that you have now. Expedition of Everest, Lights of Winter, etc. Put the quailty back into everything and not just the ones that have the direct line MBA mentality.
I know people are going to be the FLE well that is all and good and well it isnt done yet I have not been able to get into BOG. The story time with Belle is a good meet and greet on steroids. Little mermaid is about a 5 for me on a scale of 1 to 10 it looks way too much like Nemo for me.
I don't know; I don't see a BOLD NEW Vision here. I see a hype them up and Cop out later vision already here.
Call me very unimpressed and lacking in the enthusiasm department for a project that will take till 2016 to be completed. Actually I believe that the project will be like many many other projects as of late from TDO. What ever happened to the bold new vision #1, #2, Hyperian wharf, how about that Walmart shopping district they said was coming ( I am so glad that never launched), How about Avatar, the list goes on and on from them.
I see this announcement as another form of TDO having an idea getting people hyped a little to forget about the fact they haven't added a new daytime parade in years, they have cut things every year in almost every aspect, they have increased prices astronomically, what was the last NEW thing they added to Walt Disney World that doesn't have a direct line MBA mentality attached to it.
I understand the spreading the cost of the project over years for the business aspect. I have a better idea how about having enough confidence in your product that you actually step up to the plate when it is being released or at least have a faster turn around time on things so people think it is still relevant.
I move that TDO Orlando scrap this idea of building a bold new vision mall that has NOTHING to do with Disney that seems to be nothing more than the Villages placed in Central Florida. Take the money that you were going to spend on this and fix the attractions that you have now. Expedition of Everest, Lights of Winter, etc. Put the quailty back into everything and not just the ones that have the direct line MBA mentality.
I know people are going to be the FLE well that is all and good and well it isnt done yet I have not been able to get into BOG. The story time with Belle is a good meet and greet on steroids. Little mermaid is about a 5 for me on a scale of 1 to 10 it looks way too much like Nemo for me.
I don't know; I don't see a BOLD NEW Vision here. I see a hype them up and Cop out later vision already here.
PhotoDave219
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2016? Ugh. I'll be avoiding this area for years to come.
SirLink
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Yes actually, if UO can work 24/7 on a a ride + building and get it open in less than 12 months then employing more contractors 24/7 - they could of got the project done. All they are doing are building pretty square boxes...nothing challenging...
Correction to my original post - Did 16-19 months ever seem doable given WDW's current/recent construction timelines?
OF COURSE it's doable - but was never going to be done within that time frame, if you know what I'm trying to say. Might be my Canadian accent.
trr1
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I dont think they will the last phase of Saratoga Springs Resort just opened in 2009
wedenterprises
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I read somewhere on here that Disney Springs will use the friendship boats... does that just mean to Saratoga? or is that a new internal boat system? - I really hope that Port Orleans and Dixie Landings retain their unique boats.
WDW1974
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Do you know how many models get built by Disney?
And they needed Tom Staggs, the global head of P&R, to announce essentially a mall makeover that gave absolutely no details. ...This is beyond strange. Gut says they have some tenants lined up, but not close to the numbers they want/need yet.