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Disney Scanning Fastpasses

scpergj

Well-Known Member
I don't know if they are scanning the FP's or not, but I think it'd be a good idea...especially on busy days.

I wonder if it would stop the people that stand RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE FP ENTRANCE for 15 minutes asking the CM if they can go in yet - and blocking the rest of the guests from going in. I've seen it a couple of times, and experienced it once. I'd like to see the CM have a tool that allows them to tell guests "sorry...it is not yet time to use your Fastpass" or alternately "Sorry, your fast pass has expired".
 

fatdaddy17872

New Member
scanning

I saw a CM scanning fastpasses at the Jungle cruise and at Buzz Light year, but they were scanning stacks of them after people had already gotten on the ride they weren't stopping anyone thats for sure. Maybe its just to count how many actually get used????
 

epcotWSC

Well-Known Member
It would be nice if they scanned them or actually enforced the windows. Then maybe fastpass would actually be fast on all rides.
 

Mr Disney

Active Member
In the Parks
Yes
They don't need to scan the FPs to change the de-facto policy of allowing late same-day returns. They could just change the policy.

It seems more likely that this is just a data-collection effort, tracking fastpass redemption.

When I worked at Everest, over a year ago, we were instructed to collect fastpass and then give all of the tickets we received to researchers who scanned every single one when it was used. This was used as a research effort to find out when guests actually come back for their fastpass times...

In my experience though, a lot of guests don't know that you can come back after your fastpass scheduled window.

:xmas:
 

DisneyMusician2

Well-Known Member
Wouldn't that actually slow the process down though?

It might mildly, but it will keep the FP line at a capacity it is supposed to be at and minimize its impact on the stand-by line that people are always getting on the FP system for.:)

They should be doing this all the time, and should have started it long ago.
 

the-reason14

Well-Known Member
When I worked at Everest, over a year ago, we were instructed to collect fastpass and then give all of the tickets we received to researchers who scanned every single one when it was used. This was used as a research effort to find out when guests actually come back for their fastpass times...

In my experience though, a lot of guests don't know that you can come back after your fastpass scheduled window.

:xmas:

Ah yes, I heard about this. Maybe they were just doing that earlier this time. I remember someone telling me they did this. But I cant see them doing this on every fp ride, that would take up too much time I think.
 

disneydata

Well-Known Member
This is done for research. Studies are constantly done to improve operations in every area. They are studying not only when Guests with FastPasses return, but how many of them actually use the FastPasses they received (utilization). This helps them determine if changes in the distribution ratios are needed if they're not being used or are being used at certain times. A good example of this is at some attractions in the Magic Kindgom right after the parade. Many return at once making the FP line longer. After a study was done, the number of FPs given out during that time was reduced making the rush not that bad.
 

fngoofy

Well-Known Member
Several reasons for doing this, fake ones, out of date ones, but the most important reason.......

Data, Data, Data.

They know who got the FP because a ticket was used to have it issued.
If that person was a resort guest then they now can correlate what type of activities you are doing in addition to what you are eating (if you are on a meal plan) and what you are buying (if you have the charging option on your ticket.)

With this they can track how different types of guests use fast pass and make their way through the parks.

I am actually surprised they do not have RFID tags imbedded in the the room keys. That way they could track exact movement through the parks of each key holder.

Vegas casinos do this with each chip, it has an RFID tag in it that lets them know its exact movement.

I see WDW doing this very soon, it is a great way to track how and when each level of guest uses services and what ones they favor.

The scanning of FP will also allow for the future possibly of allowing certain guests to get FPs prior to arrival. That way you can have a FP issued months in advance and validate it via the bar code.

I long for the day when we can plan our time in a park out so that we know exactly what & when we will be doing. That would save the hassle of running around getting FPs and lets you maximize your time in the parks.

Ain't technology grand!
 

Susan Savia

Well-Known Member
They should scan the fast passes. We watched as a cm collected fast pass after fast pass going on Buzz as the people streamed in....never once looking down at the tickets themselves. We've seen people in front of us jump out of line, go get a fast pass and then zip on through handing the cm their fast pass... If their going to have a Fast Pass system they need to do it correctly. :)
 

kcnole

Well-Known Member
I long for the day when we can plan our time in a park out so that we know exactly what & when we will be doing.

God I don't. Its already bad enough having to plan where and when you plan on eating months in advance, the last thing I want to do is have to plan out my ride choices and times. The best thing about the parks used to be the taking your time and enjoying them. With the advent of fastpass and the like it feels far more like I'm having my entire day scheduled for me ahead of time, and if I don't want to take part in it, I'm going to have my visit drastically hampered by longer standby lines everywhere.
 

durangojim

Well-Known Member
Thank goodness I can still use my FPs later in the day when they're really needed most. You guys had me worried there for a while. :lol:
 

SirGoofy

Member
They should scan the fast passes. We watched as a cm collected fast pass after fast pass going on Buzz as the people streamed in....never once looking down at the tickets themselves. We've seen people in front of us jump out of line, go get a fast pass and then zip on through handing the cm their fast pass... If their going to have a Fast Pass system they need to do it correctly. :)

The fastpass collector CM, which is the second CM in the FP line isn't supposed to look at the FP. That's the CM out front's responsibility.
 

bgraham34

Well-Known Member
It would be nice if they scanned them or actually enforced the windows. Then maybe fastpass would actually be fast on all rides.

I would hate for them to actually enforce the window you have. I got there 15 minutes late because dinner ran long and if they dont accept a few minutes late that would stink. Granted i was there during a slow time when the lines were short. So i did not impact the wait time.
 

Figment632

New Member
Does thismean that people won't be able to show up for their fastpass 2 hours late? I sure hope so I can't stand that because that is what backs the FP line and the SB is even worse from this.
 

KingdomHeart

New Member
Fastpass, as a system, does need tightening up. At BTM, during peak season, when the lines were full, we were supposed to allow the lines to move 80-20 standardly, meaning for every 80 fast passes we let down, we should let down 20 standbys. There were times both lines were so out of control, with standby at over 2 hours that we would be asked to make it 95-5, just so fastpass can't complain, since they are supposed to get on within 20 minutes.

It didn't help that we're fully allowed to let anyone who's time expired go on afterward - which I understand and agree with, though I think it gets abused. What if you were on an attraction that broke down or you got seated late for your dinner reservations and got out late cause of it and missed your window? I never minded a few people using them late - it was when people had a blatant disregard that was a problem and would walk up at 9 pm with this 11 am Fastpasses. That got frustrating.

The another thing is the worst offenders for stacks of Fastpasses/Readds are CMs. Cause it's so easy for us, when in rotation to just pocket them, I knew a CM who had thousands. Literally. And CMs tend to not turn away expired Readds, in case its from someone's last trip or they were honestly given the wrong pass.

Another problem is the raging abuse of the childswap. Sometimes, when a parent comes up, and they have to ride one at a time, it's really sort of cute - I always thought it was a shame there was no way for them to ride simultaneously. But I'd get a group of like, 15 come up, where there's just one 3 year old who can't ride, and a grandma, and they'd be like, "We need childswaps to cover 13 people, please." WHHHHHHAAAAAAAT?

And also - REALLY hysterically bad ebay fastpasses that have no attraction on them, but rather say like "Frontierland" on the top and have the phrase "No expiration!" on the bottom. And of course, the people using them always say "Oh, I - uh, I don't know where I got them - I think uhm, an employee, one of those workers at Splash Mountain gave it to me. You should call. I just can't remember a name. Or their gender. Or where they where. Can we go up now?"

The fastpass collector CM, which is the second CM in the FP line isn't supposed to look at the FP. That's the CM out front's responsibility.

We were also was told we had to, to make sure someone wasn't told "Your Fastpass is expired/not valid yet/etc" and jumped lines once going in standby. We always had to.

I wish there was a way to make the fastpass system just go on your ticket. Like, the ticket gets encoded or something. And then they just scan your ticket. Then there'd be no question possible. It's there or it's not. Of course, imagine the day the system goes down or the problems with the tickets that won't scan properly, and we have to give out those fastpass cards. It's a terrific concept, with the best possible (at the time) system. I look forward to those cell phone fastpasses they were talking about forever ago. I love seeing the new tech Disney comes up with. They always try to make everything magical and exciting - even the fastpasses.

-Nicholas
 

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