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Disney Preparing Live-Action Peter Pan with Pete’s Dragon Director
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crispy
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Snap, snap! Live all the "Goes Wrong" shows. We saw the traveling version of The Play That Goes Wrong a couple of years ago,and I don't think I have ever laughed harder at a show.
tcool123
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Just finished watching Peter Pan & Wendy!
Like the majority of the remakes the original is better, but unlike the majority of the remakes this film is at least decent! It was a nice retelling of the Peter Pan story while modernizing it at the same time. I'm sure there are some who will find issue with the film, but I found it to be genuinely enjoyable - a first for the straight to Disney+ remakes! I'd say give the film a shot, but don't expect a remake of the original classic rather go in expecting a retelling of the Peter Pan story we all know.
Like the majority of the remakes the original is better, but unlike the majority of the remakes this film is at least decent! It was a nice retelling of the Peter Pan story while modernizing it at the same time. I'm sure there are some who will find issue with the film, but I found it to be genuinely enjoyable - a first for the straight to Disney+ remakes! I'd say give the film a shot, but don't expect a remake of the original classic rather go in expecting a retelling of the Peter Pan story we all know.
Disney Analyst
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Disney Analyst
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Review bombing on schedule, as expected.
But I watched this tonight, and it was actually really enjoyable, with a fair bit of charm and heart. I loved the updates made.
But I watched this tonight, and it was actually really enjoyable, with a fair bit of charm and heart. I loved the updates made.
Californian Elitist
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Just finished the movie. Peter Pan is one of my favorite novels of all time and, because of this, I rarely pass up an opportunity to catch any film adaptation of the story, so this was no different, despite my general reluctance in watching Disney live-action remakes. I actually took notes while watching the movie. Before I get into my thoughts and analysis, I will say that, despite not being perfect (what film is?), this is the only live-action remake I’ve seen where it actually surpasses the original, for me. While I will always cherish the original animated film, the more I read the original text by J.M. Barrie, and I have read it multiple times, the more I dislike Disney’s animated film. While it nails the whimsical and fantasy components, I strongly believe it misses the seriousness of the story and the truly painful, yet beautiful and inevitable, factors about aging, becoming an adult, and having responsibilities and opportunities that children simply don’t have and experience. It lightly touches on it, but it doesn’t get into the meat of it. This live-action does a much better job at doing that. Spoilers ahead.
-As insinuated above, this film is closer to the text, in terms of the general themes and messages, than the original animated version, which, as a big fan of the novel and literature in general, I really appreciate. Love that they included “To die would be an awfully big adventure,” as it’s one of my favorite quotes from the novel. Some things were changed, like having female lost boys (this strays directly away from the text, but it didn’t bother me at all).
-The journey to Never Land scene was beautiful. One of my favorite scenes.
-The representation is outstanding and doesn’t feel forced at all.
-Yara Shahidi is beautiful as Tinkerbell. I really enjoyed her performance and the different take on the character from the animated film. I want to analyze the idea of who can and can’t hear her that’s presented in the film, but I will spare you.
-I love that Tiger Lily actually speaks an Indigenous language, specifically Cree. Alyssa Wapanatâhk is gorgeous and a much better Tiger Lily than what we get in the animated version.
-The pirates are very funny and quite enjoyable, Smee included.
-Jude Law’s interpretation of Hook is something else I prefer over the animated version, who is presented as a fool and a clown of some sort. Here, while he has his goofy moments, Hook is more refined with a very clear and understanding motive for hating Pan and children. He is more dimensional.
-Alexander Molony’s performance as one of the titular characters is convincing. He is way more serious and nails the cocky, “I don’t care” attitude that Peter Pan has. He is less cheery and boy-ish, something I’m not used to. I do wish he was more cheery at times, but I thought his performance was good. Not my favorite Peter Pan, but still good.
-Wendy’s inevitable aging and growing up is immediately tackled in the beginning of the film. She fears growing up, but there are signs that she is already doing so and maturing faster than she thinks (“every man for himself” attitude towards John, being genuinely upset about being put in danger and nearly dying when attacked by the cannonball, scolding Peter for not being more concerned about their safety, etc.). She is fighting it, yet naturally doing it. I’ve never seen an interpretation of Wendy like this before in any other film adaptation. I could analyze this take and direction of the character, but, again, I won’t. Ever Anderson is a lovely Wendy.
-Similar to the animated version, I admire Peter and Wendy not being in love with each other, unlike Universal’s version (which I love). I think it should be kept this way. They have love for each other and care for each other, but they are not in love.
- I wanted more of Michael and John.
-As I stated earlier, I really like how this adaptation tackles the growing up/losing one’s childhood theme. I think the “growing up wrong” line is very compelling. It implies that simply aging is not the problem, but the way you age and the adults that some people become can be harmful and bad. Wendy’s happy thoughts consisting of both her as a child and as an adult is an example of this concept and one that is simple, yet so very well-done (and is the whole point of the story!). There is beauty, fun, and good in both childhood and adulthood. The emphasis on the importance and strength of a mother’s love is evident in this film and helps drives the biggest theme of the story home. Again, these themes are central to the story, and the animated version only slightly addresses them. Given that it’s a children’s movie from the 1950’s, I’m not surprised it doesn’t properly and extensively address these themes. However, I do appreciate when they are addressed, and this film adaption does so convincingly.
-The music and score are fantastic. I really enjoyed the film’s version of “You Can Fly!”.
-The humor is great, too. John questioning whether they should now be heading to the second star to the left and not the right, since they’re going home and therefore in the opposite direction, is brilliant.
-The simplicity of Never Land is welcomed. No overly-saturated colors, no large amounts of fantasy elements, no weird-looking sirens/mermaids… It is literally just a place made of multiple islands that is surrounded by a large body of water. That’s it.
This remake is unlike the animated original, and yet, it is still a decent to good film. That’s what I’m looking for with these films, but I’m usually disappointed instead. This didn’t disappoint me, and it absolutely beats the animated original. Good job, Disney.
-As insinuated above, this film is closer to the text, in terms of the general themes and messages, than the original animated version, which, as a big fan of the novel and literature in general, I really appreciate. Love that they included “To die would be an awfully big adventure,” as it’s one of my favorite quotes from the novel. Some things were changed, like having female lost boys (this strays directly away from the text, but it didn’t bother me at all).
-The journey to Never Land scene was beautiful. One of my favorite scenes.
-The representation is outstanding and doesn’t feel forced at all.
-Yara Shahidi is beautiful as Tinkerbell. I really enjoyed her performance and the different take on the character from the animated film. I want to analyze the idea of who can and can’t hear her that’s presented in the film, but I will spare you.
-I love that Tiger Lily actually speaks an Indigenous language, specifically Cree. Alyssa Wapanatâhk is gorgeous and a much better Tiger Lily than what we get in the animated version.
-The pirates are very funny and quite enjoyable, Smee included.
-Jude Law’s interpretation of Hook is something else I prefer over the animated version, who is presented as a fool and a clown of some sort. Here, while he has his goofy moments, Hook is more refined with a very clear and understanding motive for hating Pan and children. He is more dimensional.
-Alexander Molony’s performance as one of the titular characters is convincing. He is way more serious and nails the cocky, “I don’t care” attitude that Peter Pan has. He is less cheery and boy-ish, something I’m not used to. I do wish he was more cheery at times, but I thought his performance was good. Not my favorite Peter Pan, but still good.
-Wendy’s inevitable aging and growing up is immediately tackled in the beginning of the film. She fears growing up, but there are signs that she is already doing so and maturing faster than she thinks (“every man for himself” attitude towards John, being genuinely upset about being put in danger and nearly dying when attacked by the cannonball, scolding Peter for not being more concerned about their safety, etc.). She is fighting it, yet naturally doing it. I’ve never seen an interpretation of Wendy like this before in any other film adaptation. I could analyze this take and direction of the character, but, again, I won’t. Ever Anderson is a lovely Wendy.
-Similar to the animated version, I admire Peter and Wendy not being in love with each other, unlike Universal’s version (which I love). I think it should be kept this way. They have love for each other and care for each other, but they are not in love.
- I wanted more of Michael and John.
-As I stated earlier, I really like how this adaptation tackles the growing up/losing one’s childhood theme. I think the “growing up wrong” line is very compelling. It implies that simply aging is not the problem, but the way you age and the adults that some people become can be harmful and bad. Wendy’s happy thoughts consisting of both her as a child and as an adult is an example of this concept and one that is simple, yet so very well-done (and is the whole point of the story!). There is beauty, fun, and good in both childhood and adulthood. The emphasis on the importance and strength of a mother’s love is evident in this film and helps drives the biggest theme of the story home. Again, these themes are central to the story, and the animated version only slightly addresses them. Given that it’s a children’s movie from the 1950’s, I’m not surprised it doesn’t properly and extensively address these themes. However, I do appreciate when they are addressed, and this film adaption does so convincingly.
-The music and score are fantastic. I really enjoyed the film’s version of “You Can Fly!”.
-The humor is great, too. John questioning whether they should now be heading to the second star to the left and not the right, since they’re going home and therefore in the opposite direction, is brilliant.
-The simplicity of Never Land is welcomed. No overly-saturated colors, no large amounts of fantasy elements, no weird-looking sirens/mermaids… It is literally just a place made of multiple islands that is surrounded by a large body of water. That’s it.
This remake is unlike the animated original, and yet, it is still a decent to good film. That’s what I’m looking for with these films, but I’m usually disappointed instead. This didn’t disappoint me, and it absolutely beats the animated original. Good job, Disney.
Jedijax719
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Yes, the review bombing is truly at its nefarious peak with this one. That is what happens when you don't have verified audiences.
Ghost93
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That's why I believe Disney should put more of their movies in theaters. Rotten tomatoes only allows ticket buyers to have their votes count toward a verified audience score.
Right…some other Streamers seem to be leaning that way…I have noticed if a film is good…other studios are moving from the streamer to the theater…Air from Amazon Prime…Evil Dead Rise from HBO Max…Straight to DVD is becoming the new straight to streaming… I have not watched yet, but seems as though Peter and Wendy should have gone to theaters
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Ghost93
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I think it should have gone to theaters simply because very few movies are aimed at families. One reason Mario is doing so well is because it's the only family film that has come out since Puss and Boots. There shouldn't be a four-month gap for major family films.
erasure fan1
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To be fair, wouldn't not having verified accounts allow anyone to review the movie? So what's stopping all the people who support the movie from going out and 5 staring it even if they haven't seen it? It does happen both ways. All this shows me is there aren't enough people who care to offset the ones who are sick of the remakes. Just my opinion.
Ouch! The aggregated reviews are terrible. Neither critic nor audience really enjoyed it.
Disney Analyst
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Really great analysis.
I loved how they wrote and presented Tiger Lily, very improved, and well done.
And I loved how they did the Lost Boys. “But you’re not all boys? … I guess it doesn’t really matter.”
Ghost93
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So I just saw the movie. It didn't feel like a souless cash grab, and I found it a lot deeper and more thoughtful than the animated version. But the tone was so somber and the lighting so dark throughout that I can't imagine children LOVING the movie. The animated version was definitely more fun. As for the acting, I thought the kid playing Peter was weak, but the rest of the cast was solid.
I think the 2003 version of Peter Pan is the best so far, striking the right balance in tone. I also thought the 2003 film had the most interesting Peter/Wendy dynamic.
I think the 2003 version of Peter Pan is the best so far, striking the right balance in tone. I also thought the 2003 film had the most interesting Peter/Wendy dynamic.
Phroobar
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That's weird my daughter said, "Why is Iridessa in this movie?" She grew up with the Tinkerbell movies.
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LittleBuford
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I just finished it. I’m afraid I found it earnest to the point of tedium. I particularly disliked the idea that Peter and Hook had been childhood friends, and I missed the cheekiness of the animated Tinkerbell. It just wasn’t fun or whimsical enough for me. On the plus side, I thought the acting was strong all around (Jude Law’s Hook was my favourite), and they dealt well with Tiger Lily’s character.
lazyboy97o
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Now I know why this didn’t go to theaters. A bummer.
Ghost93
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It kind of reminded me of how I felt about Lightyear. It's not necessarily bad, but it's certainly not what audiences wanted and was too somber in tone.
Jedijax719
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We saw it last night. It was enjoyable and the scenery was incredible (have to research to find out where they filmed but it reminded me of Skellig in Ireland). My biggest complaint was that it was too short and felt too rushed. They did just enough backstory to explain the twists, but they needed to flesh out more about the Lost Boys and Tiger Lilly in my opinion.