Disney Preparing Live-Action Peter Pan with Pete’s Dragon Director

[GimpYancIent]

Now I know why this didn’t go to theaters. A bummer.

Seen it with my grandchildren, found it entertaining and all enjoyed it.

 

[Californian Elitist]

We saw it last night. It was enjoyable and the scenery was incredible (have to research to find out where they filmed but it reminded me of Skellig in Ireland). My biggest complaint was that it was too short and felt too rushed. They did just enough backstory to explain the twists, but they needed to flesh out more about the Lost Boys and Tiger Lilly in my opinion.

I forgot to mention the pacing in my post. I agree that it felt rushed and should have been longer.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I can agree with some that it was missing a bit of the whimsy from the original, but I also did not mind that this version had a different tone and vibe.

It’s by no means an incredible film - there are issues, but I still think overall it’s a fun film, a decent adaption, and I love a lot of the changes made.

It in no way earns the hate train being thrown at it by trolls.

I’d say @LittleBuford had a very fair and well detailed criticism, which I can fully respect.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I can definitely understand missing the whimsical factor of the original.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Someone mentioned preferring the relationship between Peter and Wendy in Universal’s version (I agree, for the most part except them being in love). However, considering that the movie is called Peter Pan and Wendy and not Peter Pan, I guess their more “separated” relationship in this movie makes some sense. They do kind of grow and develop on their own, outside of their minimal interactions with each other, and I wonder if the title is supposed to reflect their respective growth.

 

[GimpYancIent]

The original (the animated classic) has withstood the test of time and is the gold standard upon which all redo's, remakes etc. live action or not will be measured against. The many copies will have their brief moment then fade away.

 

[erasure fan1]

The original (the animated classic) has withstood the test of time and is the gold standard upon which all redo's, remakes etc. live action or not will be measured against.

And that is really the corner Disney has painted themselves into with the remakes. The vast majority of the original movies are beloved and considered classic by most. So anything short of better than the original is going to be met with pushback. It's the same issue as with splash mountain. It's considered one of the best attractions ever created. So anything short of Tiana being as good or better than the original is going to be "trolled" as some would say here.

Are there people not giving Peter pan and Wendy a fair shake? Of course. There are lots of people out there that believe Disney has become extraordinarily lazy. So as long as Disney decides this is the hill they want to die on, people are going to let it be known they don't like it. And they sure as heck aren't going to support Disney by going to the theater or subscribing to D+ to see it.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

I see your point about them having not seen the film, but they're conveying the opinion of a youtube user. Are those opinions not incendiary? They've seen the film... they stated their opinion.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

My intent is to have a civil, informed discussion with others who want to do likewise.

If that was the case, then watch the referenced video and have a civil, informed discussion about the topic instead of just labelling people as having an agenda. Listen to what they're saying and counter point instead of silencing them.

 

[Californian Elitist]

What are your thoughts on Peter Pan & Wendy?

I’d like to know the same.

 

[LittleBuford]

In the meantime, have you thought about watching the referenced youtube video and having that civil, informed discussion?

I have no interest in discussing what some random YouTuber has to say about the film. I'm here to share my thoughts with other forum members and to hear theirs.

 

[erasure fan1]

Do you think it's acceptable to share reviewer opinions praising the film and base thoughts on that? Others have done that on here...

This is a big part of the divide I see on here. The defend Disneys honor squad love to throw out articles to prove they're right. Then someone else does the same and they're the trouble maker? It's really a societal problem in general. You can't have it both ways, and that happens a lot on here.

 

[Disney Analyst]

My intent is to have a civil, informed discussion with others who want to do likewise. Coming to this thread with incendiary statements about a film you haven't even seen and supposedly don't even care about is stirring the hornet's nest.

It’s purposefully not engaging in good faith.

 

[LittleBuford]

This is a big part of the divide I see on here. The defend Disneys honor squad love to throw out articles to prove they're right. Then someone else does the same and they're the trouble maker? It's really a societal problem in general. You can't have it both ways, and that happens a lot on here.

To be clear, I have no problem with people sharing reviews. But such reviews are no substitute for one’s own opinion. You can’t come in here declaring your personal hatred for something you haven’t even seen and expect people to take you seriously. “Here’s a negative review I encountered and want to share with you all” is very different from “I detest this film based solely on someone else’s takedown of it on YouTube!”

 

[CaptainAmerica]

To be clear, I have no problem with people sharing reviews. But such reviews are no substitute for one’s own opinion. You can’t come in here declaring your personal hatred for something you haven’t even seen and expect people to take you seriously. “Here’s a negative review I encountered and want to share with you all” is very different from “I detest this film based solely on someone else’s takedown of it on YouTube!”

There's a difference between your opinion of the art and your opinion of the business. I haven't seen the new Peter Pan so I don't like it or dislike it. But I can observe that loads of other people seem to hate it so it seems to be another in a long line of failures from Disney.

 

[LittleBuford]

There's a difference between your opinion of the art and your opinion of the business. I haven't seen the new Peter Pan so I don't like it or dislike it. But I can observe that loads of other people seem to hate it so it seems to be another in a long line of failures from Disney.

OK, but that isn’t what I was responding to. I have been very specific in what I’m criticising, which is the idea that one can knowledgeably judge and hate—yes, hate—a specific film on the basis of a 9-minute YouTube review.

 

[MisterPenguin]

This is a big part of the divide I see on here. The defend Disneys honor squad love to throw out articles to prove they're right. Then someone else does the same and they're the trouble maker? It's really a societal problem in general. You can't have it both ways, and that happens a lot on here.

There's a difference between articles with facts and data and articles with just more opinions.

 

[erasure fan1]

There's a difference between articles with facts and data and articles with just more opinions.

Of course there is. But that only seems to be an issue when the opinions are against Disney.

 

[Magenta Panther]

A reviewer at the Site That Shall Not Be Named has given his take on Peter Pan and Wendy. And it's spot-on. Scores the flick a 4/10. Lists every abomination in it. And points out that the aim of "Disney" with its live-action remakes is not to make better versions of its classics, but to correct the imagined problems some people have with them. I'm a bit surprised by the reviewer's honesty. That seems to be a no-no regarding unofficial Disney websites these days...

 

[MisterPenguin]

A reviewer at the Site That Shall Not Be Named has given his take on Peter Pan and Wendy. And it's spot-on. Scores the flick a 4/10. Lists every abomination in it. And points out that the aim of "Disney" with its live-action remakes is not to make better versions of its classics, but to correct the imagined problems some people have with them. I'm a bit surprised by the reviewer's honesty. That seems to be a no-no regarding unofficial Disney websites these days...

There's plenty of Disney content that has been panned: Cars 2; Lightyear; Eternals; Rise of Skywalker; etc... Almost all direct-to-Disney+ movies have horrible ratings.

And yet the pernicious lie that Disney controls all such reviews continues as a baseless conspiracy theory.

Are some third-tier vloggers afraid of losing access to the Food & Wine preview? Sure. But not enough to move the needle.