Disney Preparing Live-Action Peter Pan with Pete’s Dragon Director

Rambozo

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I'm just happy Will Smith turned down the role of Captain Hook. Who knows what damage he could have caused to Chris Rock with a hook on his hand.

I've heard the Will Smith rumor too, he seems like someone Disney would go with. He would have been an awful choice for the role.

Besides he's already played the Genie (badly), they want him to ruin Hook as well. Biggest overactor in the business, besides Jim Carrey (but it works for comedy).

Laaaazy!
 
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The Great Gonzo

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I'm sure they are all fine young actors and being Jewish I know how important diversity is in films. But it's hard to suspend my belief and think I'm looking at Peter Pan and Tinkerbell. When they obviously look nothing like the characters.

It would be much better if they got their own characters. That we can love and believe them as. Instead of going the unnatural path and ruining movies and shows from the get go.
 

Magenta Panther

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LOL, he should have never been female either.

I guess they wanted to have an adult play the role back then and females looked the most boyish. Pretty stupid when you look at it with todays eyes though.

James Barrie, the author of Peter Pan, never wanted Peter to be played by a female (for obvious reasons). But the producer of the play wanted to build up the career of one of his contract actresses, so she got the part.

I remember seeing a video of the Peter Pan TV special from the 1960's, starring Mary Martin. I was a kid then, and thought it very weird that a lady was playing a boy. But the rest of the play - the flying, the pixie dust, Peter battling Captain Hook - made up for it. A lot.
 

GimpYancIent

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If the concept is to have some kind of manufactured controversy about a female playing (portraying) the character Peter Pan, well sorry / not sorry, there have been 15 females that have portrayed Peter Pan beginning in 1904. Nothing new nor controversial but rather old history. History can be very revealing if actual research was done. By all means look it up.
 

GimpYancIent

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James Barrie, the author of Peter Pan, never wanted Peter to be played by a female (for obvious reasons). But the producer of the play wanted to build up the career of one of his contract actresses, so she got the part.

I remember seeing a video of the Peter Pan TV special from the 1960's, starring Mary Martin. I was a kid then, and thought it very weird that a lady was playing a boy. But the rest of the play - the flying, the pixie dust, Peter battling Captain Hook - made up for it. A lot.
Yes! Sandy Duncan too!
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lazyboy97o

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James Barrie, the author of Peter Pan, never wanted Peter to be played by a female (for obvious reasons). But the producer of the play wanted to build up the career of one of his contract actresses, so she got the part.

I remember seeing a video of the Peter Pan TV special from the 1960's, starring Mary Martin. I was a kid then, and thought it very weird that a lady was playing a boy. But the rest of the play - the flying, the pixie dust, Peter battling Captain Hook - made up for it. A lot.
Do you have a source for the objection to the pantomime tradition of the Principle Boy being carried over?
 

Frankenstein79

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It seems like Disney is unable to make a good new story (Strange World, Lightyear, Turning Red) or remake (Pinocchio, Aladdin, Maleficent). The main reason is they've got a bunch of idiots running the show. Who couldn't come up with a good idea, if someone handed them one.

They probably spend more time trying to figure out how they can fit in their agendas and opinions.
 

lazyboy97o

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The main reason Peter Pan is often played by a female in "Plays" is simple... their voices. For "Plays" you can't cast a 13 year old boy, because his voice will drastically change as he gets older. With an adult female it stays relatively the same, thus they feel they fit the part more.
That is not the reason for the Principle Boy tradition.
 

oogie boogie man

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I would rather see Princess and the Frog be made into a live action. I think Peter Pan is played out because it's in the public domain.

At least with Princess and the Frog, it's their own unique version of The Frog Prince. With an actual P.O.C., whose a strong character. Since she had to work to get what she wanted and wasn't just handed things. A very important character for the P.O.C., and she's even more relevant because of her new attraction.
 

RunForestRun

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I would rather see Princess and the Frog be made into a live action. I think Peter Pan is played out because it's in the public domain.

At least with Princess and the Frog, it's their own unique version of The Frog Prince. With an actual P.O.C., whose a strong character. Since she had to work to get what she wanted and wasn't just handed things. A very important character for the P.O.C., and she's even more relevant because of her new attraction.

I agree, it would be nice to have it and a new black princess. The handmedowns aren't fair to them or the people who grew up with the characters.

They messed up Sleeping Beauty as well, which was my favorite when I was a kiddo.
 

Magenta Panther

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Do you have a source for the objection to the pantomime tradition of the Principle Boy being carried over?

...assuming you're asking about the tradition of a woman playing Peter Pan, yep, I've got the receipts.


A couple of excerpts from the article:

In his 1979 book, J.M. Barrie and the Lost Boys: The Real Story Behind Peter Pan, English writer and director Andrew Birkin recounts the backstory for the first stage productions. Broadway producer Charles Frohman enthusiastically agreed to produce the play, and he made a couple of suggestions to the author. First, that it be titled, simply, Peter Pan; Barrie’s working title was The Great White Father, which is what Barrie has the Indians call Peter. (That phrase has uncertain origins but was—and isused by some Native Americans to refer to white leaders.) Second, Frohman asked that, in America, the starring role of Peter be played by his protégé, Maude Adams. Frohman reasoned that a man would be wrong for the part, and if they cast a boy, the other children “would have to be scaled down in proportion.” English law prohibited the use of minors under 14 on stage after 9 p.m. So a woman it was.

And:

According to Birkin, Barrie always wished to see a boy play Peter on stage, though he never lived to see it occur.
 

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