Disney Playing catch up with Universal... Potter Disney's biggest mistake in 20 years...

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seascape

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Tony Perkis said:
Hey, he brings up a lot of points that are easily refuted.
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What has been refuted? There is no new ride based on marvel characters at universal nor is one being built now. That is a fact.

Any new ride would have to be approved. No one has ever proven anything I said was wrong. Disney has the right and obligation to protect the characters and make sure they are treated the same around the world. Therefore since the entire world with the lone exception of the eastern United States will be under complete Disney control they can make sure Universal does nothing that harm that.

I still say and have said from the start that the 2 companies will work something out and it will involve a new contract. Only the uni fans here think uni can do whatever they want and any and all contract disputes or questions will be resolved unis way. Must be nice to always be right and get everything you want. I know I don't get everything I want and I don't think I would enjoy life if I did.
 
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Voice of Disney sanity

Voice of Disney sanity

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seascape said:
What has been refuted? There is no new ride based on marvel characters at universal nor is one being built now. That is a fact.

Any new ride would have to be approved. No one has ever proven anything I said was wrong. Disney has the right and obligation to protect the characters and make sure they are treated the same around the world. Therefore since the entire world with the lone exception of the eastern United States will be under complete Disney control they can make sure Universal does nothing that harm that.

I still say and have said from the start that the 2 companies will work something out and it will involve a new contract. Only the uni fans here think uni can do whatever they want and any and all contract disputes or questions will be resolved unis way. Must be nice to always be right and get everything you want. I know I don't get everything I want and I don't think I would enjoy life if I did.
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The problem with your theory is that if Disney denies UO approval to build an attraction without a just cause, UNI can and most likely will take it into binding arbitration and if Disney didn't have a damn good reason for the denial they will most likely lose and that would be HIGHLY embarrassing for them.
 
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seascape

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Voice of Disney sanity said:
The problem with your theory is that if Disney denies UO approval to build an attraction without a just cause, UNI can and most likely will take it into binding arbitration and if Disney didn't have a damn good reason for the denial they will most likely lose and that would be HIGHLY embarrassing for them.
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That is only your opinion. It is not a fact. I post my opinions and know I will either be proven right to wrong. I can accept that. The problem here is that the uni fans can't accept that. They have to claim they are right and anyone who questions them is wrong. As I said it must be great to always be right and never be wrong. I guess uni is building the ride now since you have to be right.
 
ChrisFL

ChrisFL

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seascape said:
What has been refuted? There is no new ride based on marvel characters at universal nor is one being built now. That is a fact.

Any new ride would have to be approved. No one has ever proven anything I said was wrong. Disney has the right and obligation to protect the characters and make sure they are treated the same around the world. Therefore since the entire world with the lone exception of the eastern United States will be under complete Disney control they can make sure Universal does nothing that harm that.

I still say and have said from the start that the 2 companies will work something out and it will involve a new contract. Only the uni fans here think uni can do whatever they want and any and all contract disputes or questions will be resolved unis way. Must be nice to always be right and get everything you want. I know I don't get everything I want and I don't think I would enjoy life if I did.
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wm49rs

wm49rs

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seascape said:
That is only your opinion. It is not a fact. I post my opinions and know I will either be proven right to wrong. I can accept that. The problem here is that the uni fans can't accept that. They have to claim they are right and anyone who questions them is wrong. As I said it must be great to always be right and never be wrong. I guess uni is building the ride now since you have to be right.
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No, Pete, it is fact that Disney and Universal agreed to take any disputes to arbitration....
 
PrincessNelly_NJ

PrincessNelly_NJ

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seascape said:
That is only your opinion. It is not a fact. I post my opinions and know I will either be proven right to wrong. I can accept that. The problem here is that the uni fans can't accept that. They have to claim they are right and anyone who questions them is wrong. As I said it must be great to always be right and never be wrong. I guess uni is building the ride now since you have to be right.
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I'm curious, have you ever stopped and wondered why 99% of the time, regardless of the thread, it is you against everyone else?
 
wdisney9000

wdisney9000

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seascape said:
What has been refuted? There is no new ride based on marvel characters at universal nor is one being built now. That is a fact.

Any new ride would have to be approved. No one has ever proven anything I said was wrong. Disney has the right and obligation to protect the characters and make sure they are treated the same around the world. Therefore since the entire world with the lone exception of the eastern United States will be under complete Disney control they can make sure Universal does nothing that harm that.

I still say and have said from the start that the 2 companies will work something out and it will involve a new contract. Only the uni fans here think uni can do whatever they want and any and all contract disputes or questions will be resolved unis way. Must be nice to always be right and get everything you want. I know I don't get everything I want and I don't think I would enjoy life if I did.
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PrincessNelly_NJ

PrincessNelly_NJ

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Disneyhead'71 said:
It's obvious that most of us here at WDWMAGIC are a bunch of Disney hating Unitards and only he and 2 others, who are no longer allowed to post here, "get" it.
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I mean we have quite a few pixie dusters and wand wavers on here. But most of us have the ability to be open-minded. Most of us can step back and try to see things from the view of others. When you have an "I'm always right" mindset, then you are severely limiting yourself.
 
cw1982

cw1982

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PrincessNelly_NJ said:
I mean we have quite a few pixie dusters and wand wavers on here. But most of us have the ability to be open-minded. Most of us can step back and try to see things from the view of others. When you have an "I'm always right" mindset, then you are severely limiting yourself.
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But he has a "feeling" about these things and knows that "most" agree with him. Don't you know that this makes him invincible to any who does not agree with him?
 
wdisney9000

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
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PrincessNelly_NJ said:
I mean we have quite a few pixie dusters and wand wavers on here. But most of us have the ability to be open-minded. Most of us can step back and try to see things from the view of others. When you have an "I'm always right" mindset, then you are severely limiting yourself.
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Ive said this before. What urks me is when someone simply pats Uni on the back for a job well done or comments how nice the new attractions are it is taken as an instant jab at Disney. I dont get it. Or the only thing that make sense is that the "Disney defenders" truly know how lame FLE is (compared to DA) so they lash out in desperation and start spewing attendance figures and profits. I will always be loyal to Disney but that does not mean I must accept every turd/cash grab they offer up as "new and exciting enhancements".
 
lebeau

lebeau

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Skip said:
I really can't with you. They need MARVEL's approval in the same way that they need JKR/WB's approval for Potter additions or Mrs. Geissel's approval for Seuss additions. There's very little difference. It's all very plainly written into the contract - Marvel is pretty much obligated to approve things as long as Universal fairly represents its characters (more specific language on the previous page). No contract would have to be rewritten. Universal will request Marvel's approval, they will give it (or require a few tweaks), and then it will be built.

Then maybe everyone will shut up about whether or not Universal is serious about keeping Marvel.

EDIT: I think everyone forgets about Storm Force. That ride didn't open with the park - it arrived a couple years later, with Marvel's approval.
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I really can't believe we're still having this discussion. All of this was discussed to death and cleared up within days of someone locating the contract on line. It's really not complicated as contracts go.

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cw1982

cw1982

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wdisney9000 said:
Ive said this before. What urks me is when someone simply pats Uni on the back for a job well done or comments how nice the new attractions are it is taken as an instant jab at Disney. I dont get it. Or the only thing that make sense is that the "Disney defenders" truly know how lame FLE is (compared to DA) so they lash out in desperation and start spewing attendance figures and profits. I will always be loyal to Disney but that does not mean I must accept every turd/cash grab they offer up as "new and exciting enhancements".
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Exactly. One does not have to be a pixie duster or a wand waver. There is room to enjoy and criticize both without having to always choose one or the other.
 

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