News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
I think you are wrong about them not needing anything new. they are probably 12-16 attractions low . They have 25% more guests and no net new attractions ( many worse if you gauge it by guest through put by hour). This has lead to the mess WDW is now. They haven't invested enough over the last 15 years and where they did invest, the money wasn't spent wisely. Almost as if they have lost the knowledge of how to run a theme park. The decision makers don't walk in their guests footsteps so they don't have a clue.
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HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Based on current guest preferences and trends, all but AK have significant excess TS capacity. Wouldn't be shocked to see options removed - perhaps temporarily, at least - until they can juice attendance and "correct" guest spending trends.

If they've truly written off 2024, what's coming in 2025 that could juice attendance and "correct" guest spending? Maybe I'm just not seeing it but they haven't done a single thing in years to get anyone excited about the parks. TBA isn't moving that needle. Tron didn't move the needle. Did the misplaced GotG move the needle? Galaxy's Edge did a little, but the bungled opening (no Rise) really dampened things.
 

EeyoreFan#24

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Bob Iger sheds light on Disney's response to upcoming Universal Epic Universe in Orlando​


The statistics answer based on “new offerings over a period of time” is not going to cut it. The “what have you done for me lately” look at a new universal park vs new Disney stuff announced in the short term is where it will be at.

Realistically both will be just fine either way. People will still spend their money on both of them.
 

Eric Graham

Well-Known Member
Being near the Four Seasons does nothing for you as a guest if you are at POR...lol You can't use the amenities, and the rooms are not Four Seasons quality...
Even Disney's Deluxe hotels like Grand Floridian ETC are not up to the Four Seasons quality...
We've stayed at the Waldorf Astoria.. They were so nice. They upgraded us to a lot bigger room. We could see the fireworks from our room. They were so very friendly and hospitable, and their food was so very tasty. The transportation was kind of lacking though...
 

Willmark

Well-Known Member
I think I hit the buzzword bingo with his rambling, non-sensical response.
I missed it but let me guess?

“Synergy”
“Drive value”
“Focus on core business”
“Go to Market”
“40,000 foot level”
“At the end of the day”
“Contain costs”
“Core alignment”
“Restructure departments”
“Realign with core values”
“Laser focused”

(Insert ones here)
 

yensid67

Well-Known Member
"Iger went on to list recent openings at Walt Disney World, including Star Wars Galaxy's Edge, the EPCOT transformation, and TRON Lightcycle Run at Magic Kingdom."

-NONE OF THIS will compete with what Universal is building. Yes, Disney will be OK, not great. All of the above things took 5 YEARS to build 1 Attraction...Universal BUILT an entire park in 5 years! What has DIsney done in 5 years? Gave us 1 attraction!
I am planning a October 2026 trip, the way Disney is nickel and diming guests, I personally WILL NOT go to Disney and not feel like I am not getting my monies worth. We have opted to spend the $179.00 and go to MNSSHP instead of a MK day! At least we will be getting a little more bang for our buck! and we will get to see a few things that day guests won't get to see, like the Headless Horseman, trick or treating!
 

Ismael Flores

Well-Known Member
It will be like any other time that Universal opens something big. When Islands of adventures open the fan based went crazy, what is Disney going to do to surpass this?
The IOA opened didn't do as well but did give Disney some competition then it settled down.

Next came Volcano Bay, Universal marketed as a an immersive theme park. What is Disney going to do?
it opened did well brought in the tourist but Disney did fine.

Epic will open to huge success, it will draw crowds like any brand new theme park for the first couple years then it will settle down. Disney will stagger open new lands and both Universal and Disney will do fine.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
It will be like any other time that Universal opens something big. When Islands of adventures open the fan based went crazy, what is Disney going to do to surpass this?
The IOA opened didn't do as well but did give Disney some competition then it settled down.

Next came Volcano Bay, Universal marketed as a an immersive theme park. What is Disney going to do?
it opened did well brought in the tourist but Disney did fine.

Epic will open to huge success, it will draw crowds like any brand new theme park for the first couple years then it will settle down. Disney will stagger open new lands and both Universal and Disney will do fine.

Some facts misrepresenting historical context there.

Universal is a very different company at the top than they were in the early 2000s to late 2000's when IOA Struggled getting substantial attention(much of the resort did) Vivendi years that NBC and Comcast tried to steer right.

Comcast is the owner that has been willing to invest, even with their hiccups and creative misfires. They have invested.

As for Volcano Bay...

It indeed narrowed the gap quite a bit.

Actually, you won't see both of WDW's waterparks open very often at the same time compared to before, and they will give you waterparks free with onsite hotels. For a waterpark expansion, it made a HUGE impact.

Not even counting Potter and guest time and money spent changes.

To think Disney should do nothing when Universal builds is a logical fallacy that has been wrong since they rushed a park back in 1989.
 

Andrew25

Well-Known Member
It will be like any other time that Universal opens something big. When Islands of adventures open the fan based went crazy, what is Disney going to do to surpass this?
The IOA opened didn't do as well but did give Disney some competition then it settled down.

Next came Volcano Bay, Universal marketed as a an immersive theme park. What is Disney going to do?
it opened did well brought in the tourist but Disney did fine.

Epic will open to huge success, it will draw crowds like any brand new theme park for the first couple years then it will settle down. Disney will stagger open new lands and both Universal and Disney will do fine.
Yes, both will be fine, and they'll both see attendance increases.

BUT, there's serious concern over whether Disney "loses" a day to Epic now that Universal offers serious opportunities to visit. If all 4 WDW parks we're built with enough capacity, WDW wouldn't have to worry about losing a day to Epic or the other UOR parks. But Disney has serious issues with not having enough in one park (DAK) and capacity woes at another (DHS).
 

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