News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years

neo999955

neo999955

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Bocabear said:
Shanghai needs to expand the current park because the park opened needing more attractions... If you go to the park you will see how much space there is between the attractions...how much room for expansion before you need a second gate. Building another new park is not the plus that some seem to think...The new infrastructure is outrageously expensive, and if you have a gigantic park with plenty of room for expansion, why bother? It is not actually going to double your business... not until your first park has a full slate of attractions that are maxed out...WDW has started the last three parks underbuilt and has never really finished fleshing a single one out. Disneyland has more attractions than the Magic Kingdom...in a smaller park.... Shanghai should keep adding attractions to the existing park...it is massive...
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This is true, but even more reason they might add a second gate anyway. They know people will still come and they'll get more money by having two gates. Then they can spend decades very slowly filling them out.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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neo999955 said:
This is true, but even more reason they might add a second gate anyway. They know people will still come and they'll get more money by having two gates. Then they can spend decades very slowly filling them out.
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A second gate requires a billion dollars in basic infrastructure... Yes you can make more money with 2 parks in most situations, but the investment in the startup of the second gate will take decades to recoup and that does not include any attractions.... Shanghai in my opinion would be batter served to just expand their current park... The scale is massive and can hold throngs more people than the Magic Kingdom...
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Bocabear said:
A second gate requires a billion dollars in basic infrastructure... Yes you can make more money with 2 parks in most situations, but the investment in the startup of the second gate will take decades to recoup and that does not include any attractions.... Shanghai in my opinion would be batter served to just expand their current park... The scale is massive and can hold throngs more people than the Magic Kingdom...
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Though significantly less than the resort itself was to build originally. Some of the serious infrastructure is in place already, a surface parking lot expansion would need to occur. Some of the backstage can be shared with its neighbour. Not to minimize, but there's significantly less new infrastructure than Epic would require.

I question the decades (plural) timeframe though. Separate gates extends lengths of stays, which is great for their hotel business.
 
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MR.Dis

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Please tell me you’re not that naive?
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Naive no, I am a capitalist. You have to spend money to make money. Universal is not going away, and if Epic is as popular as they hope that another park will be built. Disney needs to pick up their game. The decisions and Action need to happen quickly to keep their hold on the public. One of my favorite sayings is tomorrow is promised to no one, Disney should have this engraved in their board rooms as inaction will ultimately be their doom.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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MR.Dis said:
Naive no, I am a capitalist. You have to spend money to make money. Universal is not going away, and if Epic is as popular as they hope that another park will be built. Disney needs to pick up their game. The decisions and Action need to happen quickly to keep their hold on the public. One of my favorite sayings is tomorrow is promised to no one, Disney should have this engraved in their board rooms as inaction will ultimately be their doom.
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I agree you have to spend to make…

But the management has decided against the model that worked for 50 years and decided limiting investment and raising scarcity is the way to go.

They already told you what they thought they had to do to counter universal’s expansion: nothing.

They did nothing. And now they’ll string out the next set of repurposing.

When someone tells you who they are…BELIEVE THEM
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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denyuntilcaught said:
Fair fair, but are we going to act like the pandemic had nothing to do with that? I could be wrong and probably am, but just a thought.
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The best time for any business to invest is during times of crisis…because the central banks will do anything you need to fend off the blow

China is a little bit different…but still Disney was pathetic

“We’re trying to find the money”🙄
 
Drdcm

Drdcm

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I figured you must have been delirious from a sugar rush and ketoacidosis brought on by Sassagoula Beignets…

…to not notice the ugly concrete void on the center of the park
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I couldn’t connect those dots. I have to admit that was a bit of a non-linear connection of thoughts lol. I like POR quite a bit, the foliage and landscaping is nice and it doesn’t cost 800$ a night.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Drdcm said:
I couldn’t connect those dots. I have to admit that was a bit of a non-linear connection of thoughts lol. I like POR quite a bit, the foliage and landscaping is nice and it doesn’t cost 800$ a night.
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I’ll tell you why I use port orleans some other time…it’s not because I have any problems with port
 

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