News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years

[WoundedDreamer]

Shanghai have already announced that they are focusing on expansion pad 3 (between Zootopia and Tresure Cove), so we won't be hearing about a Shanghai 2nd gate for a while
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No doubt, in the short term the new hotel and this attraction will be the focus of spending. But by the end of the ten-year period, we should see a new park. I'd be willing to bet on it. Disney has billions to spend.

 

[Jumping Fountains]

I don’t disagree, but I also don’t think they will apportion an equal amount to each park. I don’t think they’re doing anything more with Epcot unless they absolutely have to. (Did you hear something? That sounds like the rickety clunk clunk clunk you hear every time you ascend or descend SSE).

We figure *something* is happening at DAK. They also just built SWGE and MMRR at DHS, so while they do need some added capacity, I’m not sure of the appetite there.

I figure MK, then DAK, then DHS, then maybe something at Epcot?

Makes sense though it’s so infuriating that Epcot is done. Feels like a travesty with respect to the time things have been under construction and results. So little to show for all the disruption and in some cases the replacements are worse/cheaper than what came before (e.g., the planters that are replacing the fountain etc).

 

[Bocabear]

In the end, if they had spent the money on the SSE redo, Mary Poppins, A new Country Pavilion, and Imagination complete overhaul and left the whole central spine the way it was except for refurbishing ( modernizing) the Communicore East and West Buildings I would have been much happier....Instead of the corporate urban park, water play area, and partial replacement building that matches nothing else that we ended up with. If we all felt like this infrastructure was the beginning of something amazing that was coming...it would be easier to swallow... but 5 years of construction, I think most people are like... Ok.... more trees and benches.....and still a major pavilion shuttered and lots of cancelled projects...and not much coming up.

 

[denyuntilcaught]

Shanghai have already announced that they are focusing on expansion pad 3 (between Zootopia and Tresure Cove), so we won't be hearing about a Shanghai 2nd gate for a while

Fair, but then again Shanghai also seems to go through expansions relatively quickly - back-to back even, compared to domestic parks which seem to go eons between significant announcements.

 

[SamusAranX]

And let’s see what and how long it’s gonna take?
And bob is still trying to save his …maybe that will sink in by 4/3? (But I doubt it)

Now now, the dusters are right. Saying you’re skeptical and “we shall see” is the exact same as making an ironclad prophecy that the money will never be spent at the parks

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Now now, the dusters are right. Saying you’re skeptical and “we shall see” is the exact same as making an ironclad prophecy that the money will never be spent at the parks

Well i’m always wrong

Look at all he built…with near net zero added seats

 

[JoeCamel]

In the end, if they had spent the money on the SSE redo, Mary Poppins, A new Country Pavilion, and Imagination complete overhaul and left the whole central spine the way it was except for refurbishing ( modernizing) the Communicore East and West Buildings I would have been much happier....Instead of the corporate urban park, water play area, and partial replacement building that matches nothing else that we ended up with. If we all felt like this infrastructure was the beginning of something amazing that was coming...it would be easier to swallow... but 5 years of construction, I think most people are like... Ok.... more trees and benches.....and still a major pavilion shuttered and lots of cancelled projects...and not much coming up.

I can tell you haven't seen the basement they rebuilt, do you know how hard it is to build a basement in a swamp?

They dreamt it and they did it.......

 

[cjkeating]

Fair, but then again Shanghai also seems to go through expansions relatively quickly - back-to back even, compared to domestic parks which seem to go eons between significant announcements.

Shanghai has just opened its first expansion after 7 nearly 8 years. Toy Story Land can't be counted as a true expansion as it was due to open with the park but budget cut when the park went massively over budget.

Yes the next project is starting now but it is still a few years away and likely running close to it's original schedule whilst Zootopia was delayed due to COVID.

 

[Gusey]

Fair, but then again Shanghai also seems to go through expansions relatively quickly - back-to back even, compared to domestic parks which seem to go eons between significant announcements.

First expansion was Toy Story Land in 2018, the second was Zootopia in 2023, 5 years later. Wouldn't exactly call that back-to-back or going through expansions quickly.

People often forget when looking at the International Parks that they have also not had a great track record when it comes to speed between announcement and opening. Hong Kong's Frozen opened nearly 7 years (November 20, 2016 to November 22, 2023) after it was announced. Fantasy Springs will open nearly 6 years after it was announced (June 14, 2018 to June 6, 2024) and Paris's Frozen will open after over 7 years (announced February 2018)

 

[lazyboy97o]

Shanghai has just opened its first expansion after 7 nearly 8 years. Toy Story Land can't be counted as a true expansion as it was due to open with the park but budget cut when the park went massively over budget.

Yes the next project is starting now but it is still a few years away and likely running close to it's original schedule whilst Zootopia was delayed due to COVID.

Toy Story Land was never going to open with the park. They had to wait for Hong Disneyland’s exclusivity to end.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I can tell you haven't seen the basement they rebuilt, do you know how hard it is to build a basement in a swamp?

They dreamt it and they did it.......

…winner…hands down

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Shanghai has just opened its first expansion after 7 nearly 8 years. Toy Story Land can't be counted as a true expansion as it was due to open with the park but budget cut when the park went massively over budget.

Yes the next project is starting now but it is still a few years away and likely running close to it's original schedule whilst Zootopia was delayed due to COVID.

Right…footers and computer fabricated Steel and rockwork take years…

They’ll have notre dame rebuilt in the time it takes to get Nick Wildes Zany Trackless Ride online…

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Toy Story Land was never going to open with the park. They had to wait for Hong Disneyland’s exclusivity to end.

It’s tricky negotiating with the Central Committee about things owned by the Central Committee

 

[Bocabear]

Fair, but then again Shanghai also seems to go through expansions relatively quickly - back-to back even, compared to domestic parks which seem to go eons between significant announcements.

Shanghai needs to expand the current park because the park opened needing more attractions... If you go to the park you will see how much space there is between the attractions...how much room for expansion before you need a second gate. Building another new park is not the plus that some seem to think...The new infrastructure is outrageously expensive, and if you have a gigantic park with plenty of room for expansion, why bother? It is not actually going to double your business... not until your first park has a full slate of attractions that are maxed out...WDW has started the last three parks underbuilt and has never really finished fleshing a single one out. Disneyland has more attractions than the Magic Kingdom...in a smaller park.... Shanghai should keep adding attractions to the existing park...it is massive...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Shanghai needs to expand the current park because the park opened needing more attractions... If you go to the park you will see how much space there is between the attractions...how much room for expansion before you need a second gate. Building another new park is not the plus that some seem to think...The new infrastructure is outrageously expensive, and if you have a gigantic park with plenty of room for expansion, why bother? It is not actually going to double your business... not until your first park has a full slate of attractions that are maxed out...WDW has started the last three parks underbuilt and has never really finished fleshing a single one out. Disneyland has more attractions than the Magic Kingdom...in a smaller park.... Shanghai should keep adding attractions to the existing park...it is massive...

So did mgm and dak…

…I guess they’ve been busy getting around to it, huh?

 

[Disstevefan1]

Shanghai needs to expand the current park because the park opened needing more attractions...

Besides that, Iger LOVES China

 

[Bocabear]

So did mgm and dak…

…I guess they’ve been busy getting around to it, huh?

That is why I said WDW started their last 3 projects as underbuilt...They are getting around to adding some things, but even after the recent additions to DHS, people still say it is a half day park....as they do about DAK...
EPCOT could use at least 4 or 5 more attractions, additional pavilions etc as well....and then there is the refurbishing and updating....which is the part Disney is bad about...
Remember when DHS got down to 5 rides in the park....before they started Star Wars Land and TSL... It was pathetic... THey are still trying to catch up...all of the Florida parks are and have shuttered attractions in plain sight...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That is why I said WDW started their last 3 projects as underbuilt...They are getting around to adding some things, but even after the recent additions to DHS, people still say it is a half day park....as they do about DAK...
EPCOT could use at least 4 or 5 more attractions, additional pavilions etc as well....and then there is the refurbishing and updating....which is the part Disney is bad about...
Remember when DHS got down to 5 rides in the park....before they started Star Wars Land and TSL... It was pathetic... THey are still trying to catch up...all of the Florida parks are and have shuttered attractions in plain sight...

True

Some genius decided adding things to make your crowd happy was too much overhead…while making them frustrated to sell upsells was Einstein level thinking

 

[JD80]

In the end, if they had spent the money on the SSE redo, Mary Poppins, A new Country Pavilion, and Imagination complete overhaul and left the whole central spine the way it was except for refurbishing ( modernizing) the Communicore East and West Buildings I would have been much happier....Instead of the corporate urban park, water play area, and partial replacement building that matches nothing else that we ended up with. If we all felt like this infrastructure was the beginning of something amazing that was coming...it would be easier to swallow... but 5 years of construction, I think most people are like... Ok.... more trees and benches.....and still a major pavilion shuttered and lots of cancelled projects...and not much coming up.

Have you been to the so called urban park? In my opinion it's fantastic.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Have you been to the so called urban park? In my opinion it's fantastic.

Got a trip to port orleans coming up, huh?

It’s a concrete garden with oversized lawn chairs that just look weird