News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No I mean what execs such as Iger and many others say about Trowbridge and other great creatives when they explain what can make a great attraction after paying for their portfolio consultation abilities and direction.

My point was the decisions come from the corner suite

Marching orders

The subs have very limited say. Including the joker in skinny jeans

 

[celluloid]

DCA was cheap…without enough land

Was? The problems they could have fixed decades later still have it with the same ones. Web crawlers, Incredicoaster and San Frokyo prove that.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Yeah I don’t see another Paris park

Many Disney acolytes have zero clue that the second park was required…it was damage control…not Eisner being cheap

He wasn’t cheap in Hong Kong either…just an awful idea

DCA was cheap…without enough land

HKDL almost had a castle made of 2D cutouts.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Was? The problems they could have fixed decades later still have it with the same ones. Web crawlers, Incredicoaster and San Frokyo prove that.

Which proves that pass Iger, Inc has been given to be 100% wrong

It will all be in my upcoming book:
“YOU FOOLS!
The Ridiculous Marathon Tenure of Robert A Iger as head of the Walt Disney Company…get the Fire Extinguisher

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

HKDL almost had a castle made of 2D cutouts.

After trusting the Chinese central party before the British yielded control of it and on an artificial constructed island straight from a Joel Schumacher movie

 

[threvester]

Listen all you naysayers...They are working on Smellephants....let the turbocharged spending begin!

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

HKDL almost had a castle made of 2D cutouts.

This is missing some context - there was a concept pitched for a Castle-ified version of its a small world as the icon of the park:

It also didn't happen, so it seems hard to hold against them.

 

[uncle jimmy]

"Come on Scott Trowbridge, what else did you patent? What else did you ever dream for Universal Creative? Oh neat. Wait how much would that cost? We can do this version instead. Well we don't need the live entertainment, story telling plan or musical composition in the land."
Dang this guy is just like all the others.

Curious, who said the quote you shared?

 

[Basil of Baker Street]

It's almost like you have to deliver on some of your blue sky stuff or people will stop believing you.

 

[celluloid]

Curious, who said the quote you shared?

Sorry. I apologize if it read as direct. It is amalgamation of experience and evidence. Not a direct quote from one specific exec. The school of thought with current leadership(not all, but sadly many)

 

[allanbarr]

That was never Disney's way of doing things. They didnt follow the trends, they made them. They were held to a higher standard, because they held themselves to a higher standard. Also if you wait that long, You are looking at nothing new until probably the end of the decade. Can they wait that long to start trying to draw people back?? What are the risks of operating that way? That is the million dollar question. Marie

Marie for CEO!

 

[MaximumEd]

It is…

It’s the flagship and the money machine

It should never be a dead construction zone

(Queue some fools wanting to claim mine train as “new” )

Mine Train is only 10 years old! It’s also the 147th best coaster in the states!

 

[BrianLo]

If you believe the latest revision/clarification on the financials, the true number for theme park attractions is around $30B. Across multiple theme parks. Some of that number is already being counted, as Josh explicitly said Tiana and Epcot completion is in that number. So that’s already $$ out of whatever they allocate to WDW.

You’d basically have to believe that more than half of what they’ve set aside for theme park building is going to WDW if you keep claiming that WDW is getting $17B in theme park rides (vs tech/infrastructure and DCL outlays)

It comes across to me as not a coincidence that 12 billion would be 40% of the money and WDW is about 40% of their parks (treating SDL/HKDL additively as one park, since they own half of both).

It’s really 3 billion allocated per park across the portfolio.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Curious, who said the quote you shared?

…just a hint of a light sarcasm reduction on that one

…pair it with a light white

 

[Tha Realest]

It comes across to me as not a coincidence that 12 billion would be 40% of the money and WDW is about 40% of their parks (treating SDL/HKDL additively as one park, since they own half of both).

It’s really 3 billion allocated per park across the portfolio.

I don’t disagree, but I also don’t think they will apportion an equal amount to each park. I don’t think they’re doing anything more with Epcot unless they absolutely have to. (Did you hear something? That sounds like the rickety clunk clunk clunk you hear every time you ascend or descend SSE).

We figure *something* is happening at DAK. They also just built SWGE and MMRR at DHS, so while they do need some added capacity, I’m not sure of the appetite there.

I figure MK, then DAK, then DHS, then maybe something at Epcot?

 

[BrianLo]

I don’t disagree, but I also don’t think they will apportion an equal amount to each park. I don’t think they’re doing anything more with Epcot unless they absolutely have to. (Did you hear something? That sounds like the rickety clunk clunk clunk you hear every time you ascend or descend SSE).

We figure *something* is happening at DAK. They also just built SWGE and MMRR at DHS, so while they do need some added capacity, I’m not sure of the appetite there.

I figure MK, then DAK, then DHS, then maybe something at Epcot?

Oh ya, it’s not portioned that way at all, equally per park. But when you have to make up a number to present politically, it’s a clean way of pulling off a rough estimate.

The only number that we have so far that actually sticks out to me is DCL. Like I said up thread, ship orders could very well be under way and would spread well into the 2030’s. That number would be somewhat determined and known upfront with Meyer Werft.

I’d also be surprised if Epcot sees massive investment comparatively. It’s probably never getting a new ‘land’ and will just have single item projects moving forward. Which I mean, makes sense for that park.

 

[Disstevefan1]

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don’t disagree, but I also don’t think they will apportion an equal amount to each park. I don’t think they’re doing anything more with Epcot unless they absolutely have to. (Did you hear something? That sounds like the rickety clunk clunk clunk you hear every time you ascend or descend SSE).

We figure *something* is happening at DAK. They also just built SWGE and MMRR at DHS, so while they do need some added capacity, I’m not sure of the appetite there.

I figure MK, then DAK, then DHS, then maybe something at Epcot?

Totally agree

They still suffer from lopsided distribution. It effects everything…from food and bev usage to transport to desirability/booking of onsite hotels.

That in mind…their priorities should be DAK…then Epcot…big gap…studios…then mk not even much on the radar.

And there should be no delay on the top 3…

That would repeating the same “strategy” that’s a mistake.

Wagers on if they realize it?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Oh ya, it’s not portioned that way at all, equally per park. But when you have to make up a number to present politically, it’s a clean way of pulling off a rough estimate.

The only number that we have so far that actually sticks out to me is DCL. Like I said up thread, ship orders could very well be under way and would spread well into the 2030’s. That number would be somewhat determined and known upfront with Meyer Werft.

I’d also be surprised if Epcot sees massive investment comparatively. It’s probably never getting a new ‘land’ and will just have single item projects moving forward. Which I mean, makes sense for that park.

Honestly…I don’t see them spending half of what they say (adjusted for inflation which matters)…unless things break incredibly right

 

[Tha Realest]

Totally agree

They still suffer from lopsided distribution. It effects everything…from food and bev usage to transport to desirability/booking of onsite hotels.

That in mind…their priorities should be DAK…then Epcot…big gap…studios…then mk not even much on the radar.

And there should be no delay on the top 3…

That would repeating the same “strategy” that’s a mistake.

Wagers on if they realize it?

I think the buildout at MK is a way to lean intro their strong position. I do wonder if they can handle much more capacity from a pure infrastructure standpoint (TTC/Bus to get to the gates). They do seem emphatic on continuing to build out MK, what with Tron and Beyond BTM.

From a numbers game standpoint, you have to consider they feel one of the “lesser” parks going to lose the most once Epic comes online.