lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Only Ratatouille and TRON were really intended as providing some additional capacity to the parks. The others were intended to induce demand which negates the added capacity.
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News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years
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And nothing but movie IP as far as the Iger can see.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Did you say that in front of a mirror?
doctornick
Well-Known Member
I would be surprised if there isn’t some substantial new capacity added to WDW in the next 5-10 years. Probably something beyond thunder mountain, maybe something new in WoL or SGE, building into the backstage at Animation Courtyard, etc.
However, I also expect that the ration of expansion to replacement will be off. It should be something like 80% to 20% but will probably be the reverse.
The classic case right now is Dinoland USA which doesn’t need to be replaced but instead DAK needs additional stuff overall
However, I also expect that the ration of expansion to replacement will be off. It should be something like 80% to 20% but will probably be the reverse.
The classic case right now is Dinoland USA which doesn’t need to be replaced but instead DAK needs additional stuff overall
SplashJacket
Well-Known Member
I'm sure when Disney greenlit Ratatouille and Tron they were like "I love how unpopular these IPs are! No one will come to visit these boring attractions! Yay us!"
Capacity is not a measure of crowdedness. Capacity is a measure of how many people can visit the park.
All of those expansions increased capacity while also increasing demand.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
They were panic additions to deal with the failure of NextGen to significantly push off the need for capacity. They were [relatively] quick and cheap.
The whole reason capacity is an issue is because of crowding and Disney’s deliberate efforts to increase crowding. Adding capacity doesn’t address the associated guest satisfaction issues if crowding is maintained. They need to increase attractions per guest per hour and inducing a bunch more demand won’t do that.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
Actually they were thinking “oh we already have the blueprints for these so let’s save money and just cram them in somewhere but spread it out over 5 years too”
That 60 billion includes 2 or 3 new cruise ships and another large chunk is going to Asia parks. How much will be left for WDW and Disneyland? I dunno. Luckily,...a new Board can change this future plan radically.
Peltz is demanding MORE parks investment and we know that Elon Musk is a huge personal lifetime fan of traditional Disney Parks. (If Musk wants to get involved with Peltz)
even if Iger "started" after D23 Expo at the end of the year on something new and big?...it would take them 5-6 years to build it. That means 2029-2030 before we see anything?
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Perfect Super Bowl prop bet. Will there be more TDs on Sunday or rides built in WDW over the next 4 years
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I hate to be the bearer of bad news…
…he did it…so I don’t have to
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That’s a suckers bet
Laketravis
Well-Known Member
They don't increase capacity if they aren't staffed to capacity.
All of this "60 Billion over 10 years" turbo charge stuff is just more of the same Blue Sky dreaming talk that we have all been hearing in the past 3 years.
This is all coming from the same people that fought and struggled as HARD as they could for FIVE YEARS to build a county park with trees and benches in the middle of Epcot with LED lights, a water pump walk through attraction and a cool Walt Statue. Yeah,..these people are STILL working as hard as they can to finish the rest of it...hopefully this year?
So yeah,...these same people are bragging about a future 60 billion dollar plan and great things coming soon...so please buy our stock.
This is all coming from the same people that fought and struggled as HARD as they could for FIVE YEARS to build a county park with trees and benches in the middle of Epcot with LED lights, a water pump walk through attraction and a cool Walt Statue. Yeah,..these people are STILL working as hard as they can to finish the rest of it...hopefully this year?
So yeah,...these same people are bragging about a future 60 billion dollar plan and great things coming soon...so please buy our stock.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Incorrect
Replacements do not increase capacity…and they have needed capacity for 15+ years as is
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
B3…you just sunk Bob’s battleship
SplashJacket
Well-Known Member
I agree...
Remind me where I said replacements add capacity, alternatively, what did Tron and Ratatouille replace?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Remember,...increasing capacity also increases daily operational costs,..they very thing Disney want's to LOWER.
Guys,...every single penny of Parks revenue needs to be vacuumed OUT of the parks and given to the failing areas of the company. The Parks won't prosper until PIXAR, Lucasfilm, Marvel and other divisions are financially healthy again. Yeah,...the Parks are the life-ring that float the company. Other divisions are lead weight pulling it down.
Guys,...every single penny of Parks revenue needs to be vacuumed OUT of the parks and given to the failing areas of the company. The Parks won't prosper until PIXAR, Lucasfilm, Marvel and other divisions are financially healthy again. Yeah,...the Parks are the life-ring that float the company. Other divisions are lead weight pulling it down.
Laketravis
Well-Known Member
Exactly. You don't speak of the goose - only of those who benefit from the golden eggs.
