News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years

[Disstevefan1]

AFAIK that's very accurate. They're basically taking a fix up approach with USF understanding that attendance is going to drop because of Epic regardless. They're not worried about IOA at all.

I will say though, Supercharged is slated to close before Simpsons.

Zelda is still happening though before Pokémon and that's besides the fact other projects have taken priority. There's only so many things you can realistically add to a park/resort at once, but the future of UOR has never looked better.

I am looking forward to visiting USF and IOA after EPIC opens, hoping to enjoy lower crowds.

I am looking forward to visiting WDW after EPIC opens, hoping to enjoy magnificent desolation

 

[Jrb1979]

Development Hell is probably an apt description for a lot at Universal right now. Their desire to open something new every year is nice unless it results in more filler projects like DreamWorks Land

I can see it working. Build the big ticket rides but in-between you build smaller filler rides.

 

[Rich Brownn]

I look forward to Supercharged closing. The previous ride was vastly superior in my opinion. Does the old set still exist behind the screen tunnel? It would be cool for them to bring back that ride with all the effects or at least something similar if they kept the same ride system.

Zelda makes me worried. Isn’t The Lost Continent the rumored placement for Zelda? Zelda is a very green world outside of the Gerudo Valley and Goron Mountain…. I hope they don’t do it cheaply.

The only thing left from Disaster! is one wall (by where the exit used to be). Everything else was demolished (sob - as it was my favorite job)

 

[lazyboy97o]

I can see it working. Build the big ticket rides but in-between you build smaller filler rides.

Rushing through filler projects is not a deliberate tic-toc or even tic-tic-toc development cycle.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Development Hell is probably an apt description for a lot at Universal right now. Their desire to open something new every year is nice unless it results in more filler projects like DreamWorks Land.

Filler projects are ALLWAYS BETTER then walls being up for over five years and the end result being a HUGE disappointment - See the EPCOT renovation,

 

[lazyboy97o]

Filler projects are ALLWAYS BETTER then walls being up for over five years and the end result being a HUGE disappointment - See the EPCOT renovation,

Only if you’re the type to constantly just make stuff up for whatever nonsense you want to peddle.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Only if you’re the type to constantly just make stuff up for whatever nonsense you want to peddle.

I was disappointed to see what we got in the over 5 year renovation of EPCOT.

Actually, you are right, the EPCOT renovation that took over 5 years is nonsense - Thanks!

 

[lazyboy97o]

I was disappointed to see what we got in the over 5 year renovation of EPCOT.

Actually, you are right, the EPCOT renovation that took over 5 years is nonsense - Thanks!

And yet you just said filler projects are ALWAYS BETTER….

 

[Disstevefan1]

And yet you just said filler projects are ALWAYS BETTER….

Yes, thanks, let me correct myself.

The Filler project Universal did is specifically better than the disappointing EPCOT renovation when you consider the time, money spent and what we got in the end.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Yes, thanks, let me correct myself.

The Filler project Universal did is specifically better than the disappointing EPCOT renovation when you consider the time, money spent and what we got in the end.

The EPCOT renovation isn't just half the hub. It was a reconfiguration of the parking, the removal of the tombstones and a new entrance, the lights on SSE and all the other supporting LEDs inside and outside the entrance, the new dining hall, the new shop, Cosmic Rewind, Journey of Water, new fireworks shows, new restaurants (220 and the one at Japan), Ratatouille, new Canada show, new Land Pavilion Show.

I don't know how you can consider that equivalent to 'filler.'

 

[Disstevefan1]

The EPCOT renovation isn't just half the hub. It was a reconfiguration of the parking, the removal of the tombstones and a new entrance, the lights on SSE and all the other supporting LEDs inside and outside the entrance, the new dining hall, the new shop, Cosmic Rewind, Journey of Water, new fireworks shows, new restaurants (220 and the one at Japan), Ratatouille, new Canada show, new Land Pavilion Show.

I don't know how you can consider that equivalent to 'filler.'

There are some things I like if we are to fold in items done for the 50th into what we are calling the EPCOT renovation.

Just my opinion, overall I am disappointed in the overall results. I especially dislike that terrible rust (finish?) in celebration gardens.

@MisterPenguin I know you love it all and you have every right to.

 

[Gusey]

There are some things I like if we are to fold in items done for the 50th into what we are calling the EPCOT renovation.

Disney marketed some of those things for the 50th as part of Epcot's renovation. Anything that opened in Epcot from The new entrance plaza in 2019 to CommuniCore Hall in 2024 are all considered part of the Epcot renovation (Hence the often quoted 5 years)

 

[lazyboy97o]

Disney marketed some of those things for the 50th as part of Epcot's renovation. Anything that opened in Epcot from The new entrance plaza in 2019 to CommuniCore Hall in 2024 are all considered part of the Epcot renovation (Hence the often quoted 5 years)

The Mission: SPACE update was considered to be part of Evolving Epcot.

 

[JKick95]

The only thing left from Disaster! is one wall (by where the exit used to be). Everything else was demolished (sob - as it was my favorite job)

For some reason I thought it was the exact same ride that was given a new overlay.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Disney marketed some of those things for the 50th as part of Epcot's renovation. Anything that opened in Epcot from The new entrance plaza in 2019 to CommuniCore Hall in 2024 are all considered part of the Epcot renovation (Hence the often quoted 5 years)

There are some things I like about the Epcot renovation but I am overall disappointed. Just my opinion.

This took much too long and I presume cost way too much for what we got in my opinion.

 

[JoeCamel]

For some reason I thought it was the exact same ride that was given a new overlay.

They had a huge chunk of concrete and a bunch of big plumbing to remove and it took months

 

[DisDude33]

There are some things I like about the Epcot renovation but I am overall disappointed. Just my opinion.

This took much too long and I presume cost way too much for what we got in my opinion.

I’m in a similar position with it. I don’t hate it but compared to the original plans and some of the things we lost to get this I find it to be a let down.

 

[MisterPenguin]

@MisterPenguin I know you love it all and you have every right to.

Thanks.

However, I think the BatB "singalong" is awful.

IMO, the new movies for Canada and The Land are uninteresting. Fine. But not that interesting.

Rat is only mildly interesting.

The new crepes place isn't good in design or food.

The new plaza in France is delightful... if it were empty. But when you bring in 2000 people an hour for a ride, it is always overcrowded. Bad design choices there.

The new EPCOT background music is too repetitive.

Those responsible for the new tiles in Morocco should be brought before the Hague.

But I like everything else!

 

[DisneyHead123]

Outside of World Showcase, I don’t think Epcot has the cohesiveness of the other parks but that’s kind of a fun thing for one park. (I really hope they don’t all end up like that, however.) It’s kind of like going to an antique store where you encounter a hodgepodge of interesting things. And Epcot and AK are by far the best parks for hands-on type activities, which this expansion added to with Journey of Water and CommuniCore. The Play Pavilion would have been great but at this point I guess that’s just not happening. I appreciate that aspect as my son finds 95% of the traditional rides terrifying but loves walk through attractions like Sea Base, Moana, and the Figment area with the fountains outside.

Again, though, I would be really sad if the other parks end up atomized this way. For one park it’s a fun niche, for all of them it would become a loss of theming.

 

[eddie104]

(I really hope they don’t all end up like that, however

The way they build things most of us won’t be able to see that happen anyway.