News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years

Henry Mystic

Henry Mystic

Author of "A Manor of Fact"
UNCgolf said:
They need to do a lot at DAK and DHS, as well as more work at EPCOT, before they think about building a 5th park.

EPCOT doesn't really need expansions, especially compared to the other two, but it does need to fix several existing spaces. A new World Showcase pavilion or two and a couple of additional rides up there would be great, but not really necessary if they didn't have some old Future World pavilions wasting away.

DAK and DHS, on the other hand, both need at least double the amount of their current attractions.
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That's the plan. Pump the most raw capacity boost over the next decade WDW has ever seen, and once that is done, build a 5th gate. Leadership gets it now, it's why you're seeing a new land at HWS before BBT is finished.
 
Henry Mystic

Henry Mystic

Author of "A Manor of Fact"
celluloid said:
It totally is.
Zero actual plans to go forward with a fifth park.
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It's not greenlit like shovels on the ground but plans do exist. It reaches back before COVID. There are no near-term plans though, this is again, a while away (ie. after Universal in Britain even), and AFTER this massive round of expansion at the existing parks at WDW is completed.
 
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celluloid

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Henry Mystic said:
It's not greenlit like shovels on the ground but plans do exist. It reaches back before COVID. There are no near-term plans though, this is again, a while away, and AFTER this massive round of expansion at the existing parks are completed.
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There are three very detailed plans that have existed since and before Iger got there. Iger has been anti fifth park since he got in the CEO role the first time.

There are always hundreds of thousands of dollars in planning and concepts in file cabinets around WDI and corporate.

We are a long, long way away from park 5.

They don't even know how they are going to staff the four WITH the CP once EPIC's resort expansion fully opens.
 
Coaster Lover

Coaster Lover

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celluloid said:
This.
a 68 acre Disney park on Disneyland's resort property would be so meh when it is surrounded by more.

They can fix their other 72 acre park that has still never been altered right first.
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While, from a park fans perspective, this may be the proper path forward, from a marketing perspective, a third gate in California is a worthy ambition. No matter how much they add to the current two parks, the majority of vacationers are going to see Disneyland Resort as only needing 2-3 days to see (1-2 days for DL, 1 day for DCA). Adding a third gate psychologically makes vacationers think they will need an extra day to see everything allowing the resort to get 25-33% more revenue from each guest without needing to directly draw a greater number of guests.
 
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celluloid

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Coaster Lover said:
While, from a park fans perspective, this may be the proper path forward, from a marketing perspective, a third gate in California is a worthy ambition. No matter how much they add to the current two parks, the majority of vacationers are going to see Disneyland Resort as only needing 2-3 days to see (1-2 days for DL, 1 fay for DCA). Adding a third gate psychologically makes vacationers think they will need an extra day to see everything allowing the resort to get 25-33% more revenue from each guest without needing to directly draw a greater number of guests.
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Marketing need things to market. Disney pushes hands of marketing teams to market what is trendy.

Disney's entire game right now is openly admitted to only putting in properties that they produce for film and television.

They have saturated the parks so much with the current for synergy, they don't have enough resources or want to do in-house IP to do things like they did in Hong Kong Disneyland.



And they won't waste squeezing in 68 acres plus support when they can get more money off of hotels for that space.

What would they even fill the third park with?
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Henry Mystic said:
This is just false.
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Do you know why I’m saying that? It has nothing to do with budgets or staffing…or even Disney for that matter.
Henry Mystic said:
It's not greenlit like shovels on the ground but plans do exist. It reaches back before COVID. There are no near-term plans though, this is again, a while away (ie. after Universal in Britain even), and AFTER this massive round of expansion at the existing parks at WDW is completed.
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Tell me how the typical American family will take in this 5th park in a way that will be advantageous for the Walt Disney Company?
 
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celluloid

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Do you know why I’m saying that? It has nothing to do with budgets or staffing…or even Disney for that matter.

Tell me how the typical American family will take in this 5th park in a way that will be advantageous for the Walt Disney Company?
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Exactly right.

For the record, it is not wrong in theory when Iger became CEO and addressed quickly that he had no interest in pushing for a new park, but rather focusing on improving and adding new additions to the current four.

The problem is so often, he didn't do it.

And more to the point of not even close to a good time for par five at WDW, it is also not a great time for Park 3 at DL with the land they did acquire.

However, a waterpark at DL is likely as it cheaply expands the days for hotel nights, large ROI and low investment of land compared to a theme park.
 
Disgruntled Walt

Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
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Henry Mystic said:
Animal Kingdom: Indiana Jones Adventure, Encanto dark ride, Central American animals throughout the land Tropical America’s replacing Dinoland AND a Lion King ride for Africa, Zootopia show replacing “It’s tough to be a bug,” and a new night show with more fountains and drones.

Magic Kingdom:
Site work to begin shortly for what amounts to a Frontierland expansion and a new Villains Land the size of Galaxy’s Edge. Additionally, the Moana boat ride originally slated for Animal Kingdom will go in Adventureland between Pirates and Jungle Cruise. Tomorrowland Speedway will be different. Big Thunder Mountain receives an update. Stitch will not be in its current state for much longer. New Night Parade.

Epcot: Test Track redo opens summer of 2025, The Spaceship Earth update will likely be announced and will start once Test Track comes back online. I’d expect to hear one more announcement for EPCOT. Keep a close eye on the Figment project on Disney Plus. I've heard Inside Out.

Hollywood Studios: New land to replace Launch Bay. Rock n’ Rollercoaster retheme as well. Falcon mission update.

Disneyland Resort: New, unique Avatar land using the Shanghai pirates boat technology at DLR. PeopleMover comes back in a new way at Disneyland Park alongside significant changes to the land. Hollywoodland will go away. A Disney Springs-esque shopping district will be officially announced alongside plans for a new transit configuration for the resort. The Avenger’s E-ticket gets an actual announcement.

Walt Disney Studios:
Gets its own Avatar land and a Lion King land. Other misc. project in the existing part of the park.

Disneyland Parc Paris:
A larger than Soarin’ sum, so perhaps Soarin’/Soaring 2.0, Indiana Jones Adventure, or even a new version of Rise of the Resistance. I’d fully expect either a new land or two new rides including an E-ticket in total. Space Mountain will be back at DLP!

Shanghai:
New Marvel Land, Toy Story Mania as well.

Hong Kong will get an E-ticket in Tomorrowland still.

Plans can still change, but most of this should be announced by or at D23, some of this is long-term, though and might not be included.
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Much of this is fantastic, but is it too fantastic to be believed? I hope you're right!
 

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