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Disney Parks to Ban Straws
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John park hopper
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This is getting out of hand----- the town of MT Pleasant SC where we shop has banned plastic bags and plastic straws and single use utensils. My wife took a plastic bag into Kohl's and they would not let her put her stuff in it for fear the gestapo plastic police would fine them 500 bucks. Guess I'll be packing straws for our WDW trip in 2 weeks
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Disney Irish
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Forgetting the environmental aspect for a second.
I’m telling you this is a ploy to start selling Disney Metal Straws. Watch it’ll become a thing. You heard it here first!
I’m telling you this is a ploy to start selling Disney Metal Straws. Watch it’ll become a thing. You heard it here first!
George Lucas on a Bench
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As long as I can still get my giant plastic orange straws from Dunkin' Donuts and hundreds of free paper napkins.
Darkbeer1
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OK, the Anaheim Convention Center has used the Corn Starch based Disposable Cutlery for years, and they are good and sturdy.
As others have mentioned, paper straws are awful, and glad to hear in California, Hospitals and Nursing Homes are exempt from the straw ban. When I first came out of my Coma, I had enough problems, including other people feeding me. A paper straw would have added to my difficulties. And I still use straws more often than before the Coma.
As for plastic bags, it is one big racket. To get the Supermarkets in board to not campaign against the ban, California allowed a 10 cent minimum fee to be collected for a bag. Some use paper, but most just went to a thicker plastic bag, that costs less than a penny to make. So additional profit for the stores, and hassles for us at self-checkouts (finding a clerk to give you bags). And those on EBT/Food Stamps are exempt from paying the bag fee.
Most Disneyland Stores are exempt, as the sell the vast majority merchandise, or take-out dining, which the law says is not "grocery".
So our Kohl's can offer the traditional flimsy plastic bags. But going to 7-Eleven, they charge for bags.
If you want straws, fast food restaurants in California for the most part still offer them, just walk in and grab a few to take to Disneyland.
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FerretAfros
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I had a similar thought when I was at Bed, Bath & Beyond this afternoon and saw countless varieties of straws for sale. I live in an area where all sorts of single-use products are still allowed (Neener, neener!
), but they were everywhere in the store. I can't remember ever seeing a single one before this "crisis" broke a few months ago, which also made me wonder if the Big Reusable Straw Lobby might be behind the push. Given how swiftly things changed for a total non-issue, I can't help but think there were bigger forces at play.Then again, Disney has been selling reusable(ish) straws for decades, so I really doubt they were part of the problem.
Mac Tonight
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Paper straws are trash. Literally.
truecoat
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I recently used a paper straw at a local restaurant. I didn't know it was paper until most the way through my meal when it became a little softer. Wasn't a problem at all and I think it's good idea. Too many sea animals are eating and dying from plastic and micro plastics.
Mac Tonight
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Every paper straw I've had has disintegrated where the straw goes through the lid, making it virtually unusable.
Plus, they have that slight subtle paper taste reminiscent of drinking chocolate milk from the paper carton back in grade school.
SuddenStorm
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I was blown away by how bad the paper straws were at Disneyland. $5 for a Coke and I can't get a lid or a proper straw that doesn't turn to mush if you don't chug your soda.
Darkbeer1
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I am waiting for MASD.. Mothers Against Strawless Driving.
But really, the lack of straws to drink while driving will cause accidents, and once a major one makes the news, then what?
Save the Turtles (though there is no proof any have died for ingesting one) versus Save the Kids... And my vote is for the Humans!
But really, the lack of straws to drink while driving will cause accidents, and once a major one makes the news, then what?
Save the Turtles (though there is no proof any have died for ingesting one) versus Save the Kids... And my vote is for the Humans!
Rich T
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I respect your opinion, and I love sea animals as much as the next person (and I always cut my soda rings apart), but plastic soda straws from the U.S. were not a huge issue. Stopping them from U.S. distribution will have no significant impact on the plastics-in-the-ocean problem. I believe we need a better disposal solution for all plastics, not the censoring of a good invention.
Plastic straws were embraced by the public for a good reason: Paper straws were and still are a lousy product. And they kill trees. Most of us daily operate the single biggest environment destroyer in the history of mankind, but we're now so dependent on cars that there's no thought to ditching them. This state government pick-and-choose villain-product-of-the-year bugs me: It's like squashing one gnat and feeling good that we're "doing something" when the whole swarm of millions is still out there being ignored.
I sound more irked than I really am; I do realize it's just straws.
Ismael Flores
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I wonder how we survived before straws. sippy cups and cups with sipping lids maybe?
you are more likely to have an accident by someone texting then by someone drinking from a strawless cup which by the way they do exist
truecoat
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I respect your opinion, and I love sea animals as much as the next person (and I always cut my soda rings apart), but plastic soda straws from the U.S. were not a huge issue. Stopping them from U.S. distribution will have no significant impact on the plastics-in-the-ocean problem. I believe we need a better disposal solution for all plastics, not the censoring of a good invention.
Plastic straws were embraced by the public for a good reason: Paper straws were and still are a lousy product. And they kill trees. Most of us daily operate the single biggest environment destroyer in the history of mankind, but we're now so dependent on cars that there's no thought to ditching them. This state government pick-and-choose villain-product-of-the-year bugs me: It's like squashing one gnat and feeling good that we're "doing something" when the whole swarm of millions is still out there being ignored.
I sound more irked than I really am; I do realize it's just straws.
You have to start somewhere. All that plastic breaks up into smaller pieces and to sea life and birds, it looks like food. They are finding more and more dead animals with stomachs full of plastic. As far as the straws go, it's a small price to pay for something you use once. Here's a turtle and what they found inside.
Darkbeer1
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The cynic in me feels the One Turtle/Straw photo was created by the Paper Straw Manufactures.
A lot of my life has dealt with Marketing and Imaging, and trying to get folks to see what you want them to see, and it is back in my life big time. Heck, even as a Tax Attorney, it was putting your clients best face possible, within the scopes of the law. And that required fighting for your viewpoint of the law(s).
Disney is a master of it, being taught by Walt Disney and his amazing core staff from before Disneyland wasn't more than a dream that Walt had.
Rich T makes some good points, plastic in the Ocean comes from Fishing Nets and third world pollution. Straws were designed to help the disabled. Using a straw while driving is less distracting than out of a cup directly.
Plastic Utensils can be replaced by a very good substitute, Corn/Potato Starch based products (MUCH better than Bamboo, due to all the processing that has to happen in the creation (energy/chemicals). But for straws, paper is a poor substitute.
If we want, place paper wrapped straws on tables (Remember the cool Glass Containers at Malt Shops), if someone wants one, they grab one, if not, nothing is wasted. Let servers ask "Do ypu want a straw?" instead of making the paying customer ask. That is poor service, as some folks need a reminder.
Be smart about it, don't ban it.
A lot of my life has dealt with Marketing and Imaging, and trying to get folks to see what you want them to see, and it is back in my life big time. Heck, even as a Tax Attorney, it was putting your clients best face possible, within the scopes of the law. And that required fighting for your viewpoint of the law(s).
Disney is a master of it, being taught by Walt Disney and his amazing core staff from before Disneyland wasn't more than a dream that Walt had.
Rich T makes some good points, plastic in the Ocean comes from Fishing Nets and third world pollution. Straws were designed to help the disabled. Using a straw while driving is less distracting than out of a cup directly.
Plastic Utensils can be replaced by a very good substitute, Corn/Potato Starch based products (MUCH better than Bamboo, due to all the processing that has to happen in the creation (energy/chemicals). But for straws, paper is a poor substitute.
If we want, place paper wrapped straws on tables (Remember the cool Glass Containers at Malt Shops), if someone wants one, they grab one, if not, nothing is wasted. Let servers ask "Do ypu want a straw?" instead of making the paying customer ask. That is poor service, as some folks need a reminder.
Be smart about it, don't ban it.
Darkbeer1
Well-Known Member
OK, do we want to make a list of things not to do while driving, starting at the top.
1. Certain Drugs
2. Drink Alcohol
3. Smoke Weed
4. Have Sex
5. Text
But drinking without a straw requires more attention, and directing your vision off the road as compared to using a straw.
Ans what is the consequence for using a straw, basically NOTHING, and scientists have stated that. So why ban plastic straws?
Mac Tonight
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Because it makes highly irritable people sleep just a bit better at night knowing that something is being done to try and save the planet. Though I agree, it has a much smaller impact than we want to believe it does.
Ismael Flores
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Actually this isn't entirely true,
supposedly the straw was made to help minimize the solid fermentation when drinking beer. Then supposedly the modern straw was created to minimize the taste of rye which was what straws were made from. The plastic straw hasn't been around very long, paper straws were used for many years.
Hospitals were the ones that made the straw popular so that patients didn't have to sit up in bed according to this one article of several that say the same thing
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