News Disney Park Pass System announced for Walt Disney World theme park reservations

[Disstevefan1]

I think it made the quality go down more than it made the prices go up, but it could be both.

Totally true. menus are "dumbed down" and prices are increased to make the dining plan appear like a good deal.

Ahhhh. Things are finally going back to normal.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

What were crowd levels in 2009 compared to 2019?

Was still the same system in Disneyland in California and it worked great. (In 2019).

 

[RSoxNo1]

Eliminating park reservations and moving Genie+ to advanced bookings is not a positive thing. That's essentially park reservations are required if you want to use Genie+ and you now have the scramble in advance of your trip that I hated about Fastpass+.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Was still the same system in Disneyland in California and it worked great. (In 2019).

Had the same exact experience in DL in 2019. Last time I had normal FP at WDW was 2013, and it worked way better than my trips in 2015 and 2017 with FP+.

 

[uncle jimmy]

Eliminating park reservations and moving Genie+ to advanced bookings is not a positive thing. That's essentially park reservations are required if you want to use Genie+ and you now have the scramble in advance of your trip that I hated about Fastpass+.

Not having to wake up at (6:45am) 7am every morning of one's trip to pick an ILL is a positive thing for me.
If they're allowing people to make ILL in advance, wouldn't that mean people will also be able to purchase Genie+ in advance again?
Realize things are still going to be purchase over FP being free, but it beats waking up early every morning on a vacation.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Huh? It was by far the best option in my experiences and opinions on both coasts

Legacy was…but they outgrew it Because attendance rose and Iger didn’t increase capacity. Pretty simple math

I don't know when you started visiting the parks, but if you didn't secure a paper FastPass for Toy Story Mania before 9:30 AM, you weren't riding.

The one “new” Ride in 4 parks at that time?
Check your timeline

Was still the same system in Disneyland in California and it worked great. (In 2019).

That’s maxpass. Not legacy fastpass

Maxpass was the best and similar to genie but on a limited amount of usage

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Had the same exact experience in DL in 2019. Last time I had normal FP at WDW was 2013, and it worked way better than my trips in 2015 and 2017 with FP+.

Because the numbers bore it out…
Guess it’s time to post this again:

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

That’s maxpass. Not legacy fastpass

I never used MaxPass. I went to DL in July-Aug 2019 and we used legacy FP the entire time.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I never used MaxPass. I went to DL in July-Aug 2019 and we used legacy FP the entire time.

Oh good for you…

I was there in august 19 and I used maxpass and loved it

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Just my opinion, I think large companies like TWDC knows 6 months in advance what the economy will look like and they are removing obstacles for folks that will have disposable income in 2024.

They only offer promotions or make things easier when their 6 months forcecasts say there IS no disposable cash.

This is all kinda academic.

Dining plan and prebooked fastpasses have yielded the same results in recent years: free profits for them

 

[Ayla]

Not having to wake up at (6:45am) 7am every morning of one's trip to pick an ILL is a positive thing for me.
If they're allowing people to make ILL in advance, wouldn't that mean people will also be able to purchase Genie+ in advance again?
Realize things are still going to be purchase over FP being free, but it beats waking up early every morning on a vacation.

Buying and reserving Genie+ in advance is taking the place of having to make a park reservation. So, you still have a park reservation, they're just calling it a Genie+ reservation.

It's nothing more than semantics.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

That’s maxpass. Not legacy fastpass

Maxpass was the best and similar to genie but on a limited amount of usage

Maxpass and Legacy co-existed. Maxpass was just legacy FP but you could book it on your phone - that was the only advantage.

 

[Disstevefan1]

They only offer promotions or make things easier when their 6 months forcecasts say there IS no disposable cash.

This is all kinda academic.

Dining plan and prebooked fastpasses have yielded the same results in recent years: free profits for them

My wording is poor. I think Disney's forecasts say there will be no fewer folks with disposable cash by 2024.

That is why they are doing all of this in my opinion.

It will be a win for folks with the money AND a win for Disney who will get the money.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Maxpass and Legacy co-existed. Maxpass was just legacy FP but you could book it on your phone - that was the only advantage.

No maxpass was paid for a small fee…but since disneylanders didn’t automatically buy it…it was way more effective on limited use.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

No maxpass was paid for a small fee…but since disneylanders didn’t automatically buy it…it was way more effective on limited use.

Legacy Fastpass and MaxPass co-existed. Legacy fastpass was always free. And nothing about it changed when maxpass was introduced.

Maxpass was an add on (included in some AP’s) and allowed you to book a FP from your phone, but that was the only advantage. You were paying for the added convenience of booking from your phone. That’s it. Otherwise you were still using legacy fastpass.

 

[IanDLBZF]

Maxpass was an add on (included in some AP’s) and allowed you to book a FP from your phone, but that was the only advantage. You were paying for the added convenience of booking from your phone. That’s it. Otherwise you were still using legacy fastpass.

Plus I believe unlimited PhotoPass downloads too if I'm not mistaken.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Plus I believe unlimited PhotoPass downloads too if I'm not mistaken.

True!! Is that still a thing for AP’s on either coast?

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Dining plan…a laughable ploy rising like the Phoenix

The dining plan was always a bad deal, and something designed for people who are bad at math. It’s really a mystery why it’s been gone this long as it was a tremendous money-maker for Disney.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Do they regularly black out AP reservations for all 4 parks?

They did it at Disneyland. Then they got sued. Then they stopped quickly. Not really enough time to see if they were going to start doing it at World.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The dining plan was always a bad deal, and something designed for people who are bad at math. It’s really a mystery why it’s been gone this long as it was a tremendous money-maker for Disney.

My slightly educated guess is they were fine making inflated menu price and limited staff outlays…

But when receipts started to fall…they’ll roll this out because they know how long (15+ years) people spent more on the dining plan for “convenience” than they would if they ate during their stays normally.

…uh oh…did I give it away?