News Disney Not Renewing Great Movie Ride Sponsorship Deal with TCM ; Attraction to Close

Mike S

Mike S

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wdwfan4ver said:
Your comment reminds of Tokyo Disneyland getting a Beauty and the Beast area. Tokyo's Beauty and the Beast area is going to be much better than WDW's.

WDW's Beauty and the Beast area has shops, 2 eating places and a meet and Greet. Tokyo's is getting a shop, a eating place, and a trackless Beauty and the Beast ride. I think most people rather want a trackless Beauty and the Beast ride instead of a meet and Greet.
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Since we don't have the space Tokyo has for it* I think we could've just had the ride and Be Our Guest restaurant and everyone would've been happy without the village.

*Their B&tB area is replacing their Speedway so they have more room to work with. They're the first park to realize what a waste that ride is.
 
seabreezept813

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xstech25 said:
I hope this is true. Great Movie Ride, just like Backlot Tour, Universe of Energy, Maelstrom, etc had their time but now they are just not relevant. The parks badly need this shot in the arm they have been getting.
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I honestly don't know how great movies, energy, and Norwegian folklore aren't relevant, unless you are referring to the condition of the rides...
 
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xstech25

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Mike S said:
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Coming to Disneyland and Tokyo DisneySea but nowhere in Walt Disney World because screw you guys and your Epcot that's why.
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Ive been to Tokyo Disney several times, most recently this spring, and don't see why people who live in America hold it as the gold standard (unless they haven't been there). Disney Sea is amazingly themed but doesn't really have any attractions that are better than we have. Journey to the Center of the earth, while beautiful, is pretty short and not much happens. Its not as good as it looks. Then there's Tower/Indy/Toy Story Mania and soon the be Soarin: all stuff we have here and have done a thousand times (and Tower/Toy Story Mania are lowest capacity versions even though they ALWAYS have long lines which is frustrating as hell). Also their Fantasmic is pretty crappy compared to both American versions. And Raging Spirits is just a clone of that horrible Indiana Jones coaster in Paris.
Tokyo Disneyland park really isn't much different than MK except for Pooh which is better, the Monsters Inc ride which kinda sucks and always has a huge line, and Star Tours which is at DHS.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy TDR and am happy to visit it whenever possible, but to say it's as good as WDW is crazy. WDW has so much more to do, and saying that we got jipped when we are getting Avatar/Star Wars lands, both of which look way better than Frozenland, is kind of ridiculous.
 
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BrianLo

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Phil12 said:
Actually it's because MK has much more visitation. Disneyland and Tokyo Disney Sea need some new attractions to make them more competitive.
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Considering both have higher visitor numbers than Epcot (where the sub par version of Frozen was placed), I'm not sure that your excuse actually works.

Mike S said:
Since we don't have the space Tokyo has for it* I think we could've just had the ride and Be Our Guest restaurant and everyone would've been happy without the village.

*Their B&tB area is replacing their Speedway so they have more room to work with. They're the first park to realize what a waste that ride is.
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WDW and MK in particular have way, way, way more space than Tokyo does. Ariel could have easily been shifted to the circus for starters, without even expanding the borders further North.

xstech25 said:
Ive been to Tokyo Disney several times, most recently this spring, and don't see why people who live in America hold it as the gold standard (unless they haven't been there). Disney Sea is amazingly themed but doesn't really have any attractions that are better than we have. Journey to the Center of the earth, while beautiful, is pretty short and not much happens. Its not as good as it looks. Then there's Tower/Indy/Toy Story Mania and soon the be Soarin: all stuff we have here and have done a thousand times (and Tower/Toy Story Mania are lowest capacity versions even though they ALWAYS have long lines which is frustrating as hell). Also their Fantasmic is pretty crappy compared to both American versions. And Raging Spirits is just a clone of that horrible Indiana Jones coaster in Paris.
Tokyo Disneyland park really isn't much different than MK except for Pooh which is better, the Monsters Inc ride which kinda sucks and always has a huge line, and Star Tours which is at DHS.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy TDR and am happy to visit it whenever possible, but to say it's as good as WDW is crazy. WDW has so much more to do, and saying that we got jipped when we are getting Avatar/Star Wars lands, both of which look way better than Frozenland, is kind of ridiculous.
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Respectively disagree. WDW has more, but it's equivalent to a buffet versus fine dining. Maintenance remains spectacular at a cheaper price point. In total there may be more good offerings at WDW's buffet, but you need to wade through a whole lot more bad to get to it.

Indy is spectacular, but not available in WDW. You also left out two of the best attractions - 20k and Sindbad.

The one thing I'm harsh on TDR for these days is the sluggish pace of investments. It was a poor decade for new additions for a variety of reasons, some the fault of OLC, some WDI and some the earthquake. Your overlying point that they aren't totally as grass is greener as some here suggest, I support.
 
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xstech25

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Both TDR and WDW are maintained well, i've never seen any major "issues" at either property though I have seen some things here and there that should be touched up at both. I guess I can't comment on Sinbad because i've never actually stayed awake through the whole ride :)...but I don't see how it's better than any similar ride at WDW?
 
brb1006

brb1006

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xstech25 said:
Both TDR and WDW are maintained well, i've never seen any major "issues" at either property though I have seen some things here and there that should be touched up at both. I guess I can't comment on Sinbad because i've never actually stayed awake through the whole ride :)...but I don't see how it's better than any similar ride at WDW?
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What about Pooh's Hunny Hunt?
 
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xstech25

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Probably should read my first post regarding my opinions of the rides ;)

Ive been to Tokyo Disney several times, most recently this spring, and don't see why people who live in America hold it as the gold standard (unless they haven't been there). Disney Sea is amazingly themed but doesn't really have any attractions that are better than we have. Journey to the Center of the earth, while beautiful, is pretty short and not much happens. Its not as good as it looks. Then there's Tower/Indy/Toy Story Mania and soon the be Soarin: all stuff we have here and have done a thousand times (and Tower/Toy Story Mania are lowest capacity versions even though they ALWAYS have long lines which is frustrating as hell). Also their Fantasmic is pretty crappy compared to both American versions. And Raging Spirits is just a clone of that horrible Indiana Jones coaster in Paris.
Tokyo Disneyland park really isn't much different than MK except for Pooh which is better, the Monsters Inc ride which kinda sucks and always has a huge line, and Star Tours which is at DHS.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy TDR and am happy to visit it whenever possible, but to say it's as good as WDW is crazy. WDW has so much more to do, and saying that we got jipped when we are getting Avatar/Star Wars lands, both of which look way better than Frozenland, is kind of ridiculous.
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Mike S

Mike S

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xstech25 said:
Ive been to Tokyo Disney several times, most recently this spring, and don't see why people who live in America hold it as the gold standard (unless they haven't been there). Disney Sea is amazingly themed but doesn't really have any attractions that are better than we have. Journey to the Center of the earth, while beautiful, is pretty short and not much happens. Its not as good as it looks. Then there's Tower/Indy/Toy Story Mania and soon the be Soarin: all stuff we have here and have done a thousand times (and Tower/Toy Story Mania are lowest capacity versions even though they ALWAYS have long lines which is frustrating as hell). Also their Fantasmic is pretty crappy compared to both American versions. And Raging Spirits is just a clone of that horrible Indiana Jones coaster in Paris.
Tokyo Disneyland park really isn't much different than MK except for Pooh which is better, the Monsters Inc ride which kinda sucks and always has a huge line, and Star Tours which is at DHS.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy TDR and am happy to visit it whenever possible, but to say it's as good as WDW is crazy. WDW has so much more to do, and saying that we got jipped when we are getting Avatar/Star Wars lands, both of which look way better than Frozenland, is kind of ridiculous.
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We're getting jipped with Frozen. Yes, we're getting Avatar and Star Wars and both will no doubt be great imo. DLR has already gotten or will be getting Cars, Star Wars, Frozen, and Marvel (even if I'm not really hyped for what's rumored with that one).

Before you bring it up I will say NFL is pretty, i'll give it that. TSL though? Lol.

I guess being a fan of the movie has made me jaded when looking at what other resorts are getting compared to Frozen Ever After.
BrianLo said:
Considering both have higher visitor numbers than Epcot (where the sub par version of Frozen was placed), I'm not sure that your excuse actually works.
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Don't feed the troll, I was mistaken to respond to him myself.
WDW and MK in particular have way, way, way more space than Tokyo does. Ariel could have easily been shifted to the circus for starters, without even expanding the borders further North.
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I was talking more about the current space we had marked for B&tB. It's less than the Speedway.
Respectively disagree. WDW has more, but it's equivalent to a buffet versus fine dining. Maintenance remains spectacular at a cheaper price point. In total there may be more good offerings at WDW's buffet, but you need to wade through a whole lot more bad to get to it.

Indy is spectacular, but not available in WDW. You also left out two of the best attractions - 20k and Sindbad.

The one thing I'm harsh on TDR for these days is the sluggish pace of investments. It was a poor decade for new additions for a variety of reasons, some the fault of OLC, some WDI and some the earthquake. Your overlying point that they aren't totally as grass is greener as some here suggest, I support.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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prberk

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Slowjack said:
I think a large part of the staying power of great older films is that they weren't trying so hard. So many films today are self-consciously trying either to be "great" or "big events." They usually end up too long, too overstuffed with ideas, action, and plot. A movie like Casablanca concentrates on the basics: script, acting, classic cinematography rules. The scenes have room to breathe, and the great quotable moments come and go naturally. If Casablanca were being made for the first time today, it would be an hour longer, and Claude Rains character would be mostly cut to give more emphasis to the leads, and it would announce itself as Oscar bait from the moment it arrived.
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I think you are right. I also think they believed in the project, which made it easier not to have to try so hard.

Besides, how can they go wrong with white suits in those environments? (Still think that the look of Casablanca is amazing. Have no idea if it were realistic for the time and place, but it looked great and, kind of in tune with your statement's intent, did not need color.)

I do think that many of today's movies are bloated, especially the superhero movies.

Great dialogue trumps overblown effects every time.

And, back on topic, all of this is still a reason why The Great Movie Ride's introduction to the greats is still purposeful.
 
Bocabear

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wdwfan22 said:
I would have agreed with you until TCM took over. They ruined that attraction to the point it's just not worth doing anymore. The narration is horrible along with a guide that looks so out of place trying to compete with the narration. I welcome a new experience.
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The TCM overlay is not bad... It barely changes the ride at all and gives a little context for the scenes...
 
Kylo Ken

Kylo Ken

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wdwfan22 said:
I would have agreed with you until TCM took over. They ruined that attraction to the point it's just not worth doing anymore. The narration is horrible along with a guide that looks so out of place trying to compete with the narration. I welcome a new experience.
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I have to partially disagree. I still think the ride is very enjoyable albeit the narration is pretty bad. I think it also depends on the CM you get. The CM yesterday did a great job and knew when to seamlessly chime in. Sometimes I do agree though that it becomes awkward when the CM seems to go toe-to-toe with the narration. Oh yeah, and Robert Osborne not looking into the camera in the beginning of the movie montage bugs me too :):)
 
wdwfan22

wdwfan22

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Bocabear said:
The TCM overlay is not bad... It barely changes the ride at all and gives a little context for the scenes...
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I disagree and feel it changes the entire ride. The narration doesn't flow well with the guide and just leaves the ride a complete mess. The finale scene is also crap and shouldn't have been messed with. It's time for a change as this one isn't working for me any more.
 

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