News Disney Not Renewing Great Movie Ride Sponsorship Deal with TCM ; Attraction to Close

Mike S

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That's actually not what I said at all.
It's what you implied.
Basically what i'm trying to say is that yes, obviously they have enough space to build whatever anyone could possibly want. However a lot of times it makes sense to take things out to build things because when you add the additional operating cost on top of what was already there it's too much money. The park loses money off the expansion (not because of the expansion itself but because of the overall operating cost of the park has greatly increased).
Disney isn't some begger on the street.

They can damn well afford actual expansion.
 

Lets Respect

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True, but shouldn't the goal be to make it more than a one day park after all these years? SWL will certainly help that, but it's hard to dispute the capacity issues DHS will have. It needs every attraction/show it can get.

I just feel like people ignore the fact it has all of those shows because they don't want to see them anymore. A first timer friend is going this summer and she doesn't know how she is going to get everything she wants to do there done in one day.
 

Bocabear

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Last I checked people love when Disney builds new stuff. Sounds like an always sound investment.
I will second that...the parks are more crowded than ever...every new attraction brings even higher and higher attendance. At this point, they could save tens of millions by just cutting back their advertising like billboards...they don't need them,...completely unnecessary... the parks are already over full all year.
There is absolutely NO RISK in building attractions at Disney World... Every new attraction no matter how lame will be at absolute capacity...even the worst attractions in the parks are busy...So not only can they afford to build whatever they want, the NEED to keep building stuff just to keep up with the throngs of people in the parks....
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
I just feel like people ignore the fact it has all of those shows because they don't want to see them anymore. A first timer friend is going this summer and she doesn't know how she is going to get everything she wants to do there done in one day.
Very true. And some ignore the fact that even though they don't care for the show, or have seen it many times, it is someones favorite show that they can't miss every trip - and those people will be upset when it is changed. You can't please everyone all the time.
 

Kman101

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Very true. And some ignore the fact that even though they don't care for the show, or have seen it many times, it is someones favorite show that they can't miss every trip - and those people will be upset when it is changed. You can't please everyone all the time.

It's not about that. I love the shows. But they're 30 YEARS OLD. LOL. Why can't we get new ones? Guests won't enjoy something new? I'm not arguing you can't fill a full day there still like some do. But there comes a point where it's time to replace a stage show. Why are we clinging to them? They're all good but it's time.
 

VeroniqueB

Active Member
Very true. And some ignore the fact that even though they don't care for the show, or have seen it many times, it is someones favorite show that they can't miss every trip - and those people will be upset when it is changed. You can't please everyone all the time.

Exactly. I'm from Canada and everyone think I'm crazy or secretly rich because we go at least once a year. Everyone I know who's been to HS wants to go back and see the shows they liked. It's been 2,3,5,10 years for them... most people only go once to WDW in their life! It will be my fifth trip and we just now starting to consider skipping some shows! If I worked at Disney, I would care about fans and returning customers, but once in a lifetime customers are probably bringing in money too so you have to strike a balance!

My DH and DS are huge Star wars fan and if you want to see all the different Star wars little show (the march, jedi training, etc.) and want to browse launch bay + at least an hour for the two meets + mandatory 3 x Star tours at least (lol) we never can't do everything in one day at HS! As soon as TSL is opening, this will be a 1 1/2 for us, and Star Wars land will probably mean 3 days lol ;)
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
It's not about that. I love the shows. But they're 30 YEARS OLD. LOL. Why can't we get new ones?
Many attractions at other parks are much older, and still visited. Again, just because you want new shows, doesn't mean that it won't terribly upset people that consider them their favorites.

Oh, and I happen to agree with you, but simply pointing out that not everyone will be happy when they do change them.
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
Many attractions at other parks are much older, and still visited. Again, just because you want new shows, doesn't mean that it won't terribly upset people that consider them their favorites.

Oh, and I happen to agree with you, but simply pointing out that not everyone will be happy when they do change them.

I know you aren't saying this, but I don't think it's "wrong" to want new shows.

And yep, I know there will be complaints when they do get changed. It never fails LOL. But that's the problem with keeping shows that are nearly 30 years old. People become attached. I don't think it's the same as "old" rides. JMO. I know we're mostly agreeing. And personally I like the shows, I wouldn't mind them updated if they're leaving them as is. But these shows should have a shelf life.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
I know you aren't saying this, but I don't think it's "wrong" to want new shows.

And yep, I know there will be complaints when they do get changed. It never fails LOL. But that's the problem with keeping shows that are nearly 30 years old. People become attached. I don't think it's the same as "old" rides. JMO. I know we're mostly agreeing. And personally I like the shows, I wouldn't mind them updated if they're leaving them as is. But these shows should have a shelf life.
Oh, it's not wrong at all. We would prefer new ones as well. I think any of those shows should have, at most, a 5 year lifespan, and then a new show would debut. Again though, the problem like you mentioned is that people get attached to them.
 

Bocabear

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I was attached to 20k Leagues and Mr Toad...I also loved Snow White's Scary Adventures, but it sure didn't stop them from ripping those things out...and they were all so much morer than the filler shows they added to DHS to try and fill it out... I don't think anyone really thinks that Voyage Of The Little Mermaid was designerd to be a permanent part of the park... or the Beauty and the Beast stage show... these were fillers in a park with a lack of attractions....
 

xstech25

Well-Known Member
I will second that...the parks are more crowded than ever...every new attraction brings even higher and higher attendance. At this point, they could save tens of millions by just cutting back their advertising like billboards...they don't need them,...completely unnecessary... the parks are already over full all year.
There is absolutely NO RISK in building attractions at Disney World... Every new attraction no matter how lame will be at absolute capacity...even the worst attractions in the parks are busy...So not only can they afford to build whatever they want, the NEED to keep building stuff just to keep up with the throngs of people in the parks....
You all aren't paying any attention to what i'm saying. What I am saying is sometimes its smart to get rid of old rides for new ones because of diminishing returns. This has nothing to do with risk of building new rides. I've been trying to politely explain this for like 3 pages now, which sadly seems to have been a huge waste of time. Just because the park is crowded this doesn't mean nothing should ever get taken out. This is like basic business school 101 sh*t.
 
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