News Disney Has Purchased Approximately 235 Acres of Land

lazyboy97o

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MisterPenguin said:
MK is over capacity. The other three are not.

Just using very rough numbers to make a point: MK has as many rides as the other three put together -- 27 v 9 v 9 v 9. And that is the most likely the reason why that MK is over capacity (plus, it has a higher percentage of more family-friendly rides). So even though DAK has a zoo and EPCOT has WorldXs and DHS has shows... rides are king for attracting people, especially repeat guests.

So, WDW needs to continue to add rides to "the other three" until they are just as attractive as the MK is. And they need to do that before a fifth gate.

Consider this: if they build a fifth gate starting out with five lands and two rides in each land... then it would only have as many rides as "the other three." Which means it wouldn't have the pulling power to draw people from overcrowded MK.
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The Magic Kingdom is under capacity. The other parks are just significantly worse. Magic Kingdom absolutely needs additional capacity of all sorts except marquee experiences. The sort of things that people can discover, not plan months in advance. Things that aren’t going to be approved because they are not going to bring more people into the park.
 
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MisterPenguin said:
Just using very rough numbers to make a point: MK has as many rides as the other three put together -- 27 v 9 v 9 v 9. And that is the most likely the reason why that MK is over capacity
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True. But MK is IP Kingdom too. Sure, the other 3 parks have an IP presence but it's not Princesses and Pirates. When you look at families traveling with small children (even up to 6,7,8 years of age) - The connection with a Pandora or Star Wars, isn't quite there yet. Not to say that it wouldn't be with a TSL, Disney Jr Tie In etc. But it's not the classics.

IMO I think this why we are seeing Frozen, Poppins, Ratatouille, Moana all going into a place like EPCOT. They can thin the heard a bit if they can draw demand from the kids to other parks. I don't know many 5 year old's who are going to place a priority on Livin' With the Land over Peter Pan. Which I think is a shame 'cause my family enjoys it but it can't compare in a kids eyes.
 
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Figment1986

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this land is most likely to just keep the buffer... this property is right near a huge development which is also including a high school along back roads near there.
 
danlb_2000

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DoubleJ21 said:
Do you happen to remember how big the purchase was a couple years ago? Between this, the BK ranch, and adjacent property, Disney has purchased almost 2,800 acres in the past year alone.

Edit: Never mind. You were probably referring to the Mira Lago purchase.
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Yes, I was referring to Mira Lago which was 3000 acres which they used to offset around 350 acres elsewhere around the property.
 
DisneyRoxMySox

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My first thought was that it would be a nice spot for the DVC golf resort that was announced years back. Tucked away, on the golf course... still would have firework views for a roof top restaurant.
 
No Name

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DDLand said:
Everyone is taking this with a healthy grain of salt. I am surprised that Walt Disney World’s biggest geographic expansion hasn’t been mentioned. Just south of this new parcel, Disney has created a massive 270 acre new solar farm. While Galaxy’s Edge and Pandora are more exciting, the solar farm has involved clearing the most land in decades. It’s quietly been taking shape on the western side of the resort. I wouldn’t be shocked if many guests never know about this project (not to be confused with the ugly Mickey by Epcot that is a fraction of the size).

Now its proximity to the solar project is interesting. Not necessarily definitive, but it seems the two might be related. These are my guesses for the property...

1) Disney saw the property for sale at a good price. Disney or the RCID pull the trigger and buy the property. It may never be developed, but it’s useful to own for proper wildlife and water management. Disney constantly has to balance worries of flooding when developing. Bringing this property in (that abuts a lake) helps them manage water. It was a small price to pay for greater flexibility. This might have been spurred by the solar farm. Development nearby might have put a strain on drainage.
2) The solar farm is being expanded and adjacent space will be included. Before retirement, Iger will announce a commitment to be a carbon neutral by x year. With this solar expansion and other efforts, WDW will be completely powered by onsite renewables. Or something to that effect. They have some new show buildings they can use too!

Those are my guesses. They really shouldn’t need more offsets to expand existing parks.
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It’s been mentioned and talked about. The search feature no longer works, otherwise I’d find the posts on it. Anyway hopefully they do expand the solar.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

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MisterPenguin said:
I mean the MK's number of guests exceeds its capacity.
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I think I’m being literal here...but “capacity” is the amount of people they can fit in the gate.

All the parks are nowhere near that consistently...

Now if you mean “enjoyable” and “ride throughput”...then yes.

But the consumers have lost that battle kinda...they don’t reaction when things go offline or stagnant other than to go MORE: there’s no incentive for Disney to care.

And of course...buying partial day tickets to get “exclusive” access was the dumbest move in history...that’s like throwing meat to wolves...they’ll never be full of it.

12:05 EST...Joyeux Noel and Frohliche Weihnachten to all...
 
Animaniac93-98

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scorp16 said:
IMO I think this why we are seeing Frozen, Poppins, Ratatouille, Moana all going into a place like EPCOT. They can thin the heard a bit if they can draw demand from the kids to other parks.
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Except Frozen Ever After has not caused a significant increase in attendance at Epcot, nor is it the park's most popular ride, despite the popularity of the Frozen franchise.

Epcot attendance actually declined the year it opened, then went up in 2017, but the number was only about 3% higher than 2015 when Norway had no boat ride at all.
 
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britain said:
Right - my point was DL has less space than MK, but more capacity due to more attractions. So MK doesn’t need any more land to solve its problem. Just more attractions.
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Having more rides alone is not the solution. People need space to walk around besides the space for rides and shops. In my opinion, expanding the park behind Splash Mountain and Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and behind Rivers of America and It a Small World connecting into New Fantasy Land. Additionally, the new theater behind Carousel of Progress and Main Street. The best part of the theater is they could also add more shopping.
 
the.dreamfinder

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wishiwere@wdw said:
I know absolutely nothing but my gut tells me this is all about the buffer zone. That property is extremely close to not only the magic kingdom and resort area but also the solar farm as others have mentioned. With the surge of development, I could see Disney not wanting neighbors there. Already seeing complaints about firework fallout as it is. So much for the blessing of size 😢
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Would be a good time to point out that the Horizon west development is built on land Disney sold them ten years ago so...
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