News Disney Has Purchased Approximately 235 Acres of Land

voodoo321

Well-Known Member
Magic Kingdom has significantly fewer rides than Disneyland and yet the crowd situation is far, far better at Magic Kingdom despite reportedly much higher attendance.
I don't find that to be at all true. The complete opposite. The last half dozen times I've been to MK have been unbearably crowded with unreasonable wait times at all times of the year. DL has never felt the same for me. It's to the point that I don't even find MK to be the least bit enjoyable anymore and I'm done with it. I started to get depressed about that so gullibly I made a special trip to one of the the after hour things this year. That turned out to be a big dissapointment.

Disneyland has always been delightfully manageable in the dozen times I've been in the past 5 years. I would imagine the amount of attractions, along with legacy fastpass, keep people out of the pathways. There was only one time, several years ago, that I was as miserable at DL as I have been at MK. It's sad to say that being at MK can be a miserable experience.
 
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easyrowrdw

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I don't find that to be at all true. The complete opposite. The last half dozen times I've been to MK have been unbearably crowded with unreasonable wait times at all times of the year. DL has never felt the same for me. It's to the point that I don't even find MK to be the least bit enjoyable anymore and I'm done with it. I started to get depressed about that so gullibly I made a special trip to one of the the after hour things this year. That turned out to be a big dissapointment.

That sucks. I've been half a dozen days at MK over the past two years and have never been miserable. The crowds are present, but the park has always been manageable. We don't have trouble enjoying our attractions of choice. With rope drop and fastpasses we'll knock out 7 or 8 rides before lunch and then add what we can with more passes through the app. Just follow Easy WDW.
 

EricsBiscuit

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Ummmm.... DL feels way more crowded than MK despite having a lower attendance. MK has a much higher capacity even with fewer attractions. I love DL but it does not feel more pleasant than MK at Christmastime in terms of crowds. Just my opinion though.
 

Victor Kelly

Well-Known Member
That whole Main Street bypass was probably suppoed to have shops along it on both sides with the Main Street shops having pass through. That MAY have been the plan until they nixed the theater.

Solution to make MK less crowded, let less people in. I swear since they extended Fantasyland they now let in 20,000 more people.
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
I wouldn't be surprised if a fifth park is announced during the 50th celebration, with a scheduled opening later in the 2020s. The existing parks are bursting at the seams, and with Universal building a new park, this would be the perfect opportunity for Disney to make a big move.

Yeah, so Bob....you had better get on that then !
Is this not YOUR department...??

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Rich Brownn

Well-Known Member
Ummmm.... DL feels way more crowded than MK despite having a lower attendance. MK has a much higher capacity even with fewer attractions. I love DL but it does not feel more pleasant than MK at Christmastime in terms of crowds. Just my opinion though.
Depends on how you define "capacity". Able to squeeze more people into the park, sure. In terms for Rides-Per-Hour, not even close.
 

ObscurityPoint

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Even if Disney DID ever open a 5th gate, my expectations would be low, as it wouldn’t be a park with a specified ‘theme’, but rather a “IP-based realms of fun” park similar to Fantastic Worlds. I feel as though creative vision behind an entirely new Disney Park doesn’t exist, and while I have faith in Imagineers and would fully trust them to develop new and exciting original attractions, they’d all be shot down by the corporate side of Disney. I fear that all a 5th gate under Iger and Cheapek would consist of an expansion or ‘new planet’ for Galaxy’s Edge, a new pixar world, Zootopia, Arandelle, Marvel if possible at the time, and whatever other modern hit would come out at the time.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
That sucks. I've been half a dozen days at MK over the past two years and have never been miserable. The crowds are present, but the park has always been manageable. We don't have trouble enjoying our attractions of choice. With rope drop and fastpasses we'll knock out 7 or 8 rides before lunch and then add what we can with more passes through the app. Just follow Easy WDW.
So make a park like an aggressive work day...is that “magical”, baby?
Depends on how you define "capacity". Able to squeeze more people into the park, sure. In terms for Rides-Per-Hour, not even close.
But they aren’t concerned with “comfort”...this has been going on for 20 years and the people went along with it. Now it’s “policy”
 

easyrowrdw

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So make a park like an aggressive work day...is that “magical”, baby?

Hardly. My point is that it hasn't been difficult to enjoy a day riding plenty of rides at Magic Kingdom. Arriving a little before 9:00 (much later than I get to work) and moving from Tomorrowland to Fantasyland isn't aggressive work. Neither is checking my phone to grab a fastpass. And when we don't want to ride, we can enjoy some ice cream or watch the Country Bears or go back for a swim. It's definitely magical for me.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Hardly. My point is that it hasn't been difficult to enjoy a day riding plenty of rides at Magic Kingdom. Arriving a little before 9:00 (much later than I get to work) and moving from Tomorrowland to Fantasyland isn't aggressive work. Neither is checking my phone to grab a fastpass. And when we don't want to ride, we can enjoy some ice cream or watch the Country Bears or go back for a swim. It's definitely magical for me.

I’m not saying I disagree with your assessment...but I find that one reference a bit problematic in principle...

So the day is blasted If you want to go at 10...or 11...or 1?

I just think their ride rationing system and overall lack of investment has lower our expectations/demands to the point where it is “work”...it’s a shame.

That’s not a “good” thing...though it’s often portrayed as such
 

justintheharris

Well-Known Member
Expanding MK should not be a priority. That park is bursting at seams already and adding a MK expansion would make it worse unless they are adding a high capacity theater at a different spot in MK. I saw what happened for the New Fantasyland Expansion and the crowds even got more insane.

AK needs to be looked at. The park is great at theming, but it does not have 10 rides.
I'll be honest, I think expanding Magic Kingdom should be the priority. The problem with Magic Kingdom is that it does not have enough rides. I know that sounds crazy given that it has more rides than any other park but Disneyland Park in California is so much more pleasant due to the fact that it has substantially more attractions and can spread the crowds out. I know adding two more E tickets beyond Tron will naturally bring in more people BUT when the hype of new attractions dies down and in off seasons, it will be more manageable.

Another big issue it would solve: refurbishments! If Disney added Tron, a roller coaster in Adventureland and another big E ticket in the back of the park behind Fantasyland (Yea yea utilidors. There's a way) Disney would (hopefully) be more comfortable giving many Magic Kingdom attractions long needed refurbishments. In Disneyland, if Indiana Jones is down as it will be later this year, and you want to go on a thrill ride, you got Thunder Mountain, Space Mountain, Matterhorn, Star Tours and Splash Mountain for thrill rides and soon Rise of the Resistance. There's still a fantastic line up for thrill rides if one is down for refurbishment. In Magic Kingdom, when Big Thunder Mountain is down, you just have Splash and Space Mountain and arguably Mine Train... and soon Tron. Which is a fantastic step in the right direction. But it shouldn't stop there.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Unrelated question.

Is a west coast trip significantly worse for you UK folks than an east coast jet lag wise?
It’s about the same to be honest. Coming home always kicks since it’s a through the night flight and we’re flying east so we loose time. It must be an age thing but it takes longer to recover than it used to! I usually need a week back home to feel right again now. Or maybe it’s the 18 hours a day every day that we tend to do when on holiday!

This year we did find flying to the west coast tiring. Up at 6am our time, an 8 hour flight at 11am to Atlanta, then a 5 hour flight after a 2 hour layover to San Francisco. Got to the hotel about 10pm Pacific time which was 6am the next day according to our bodies. We collapsed onto bed, only to be wide awake at 430am pacific time since our bodies thought it was the afternoon. We packed 5 days worth of sightseeing into 3 days and then flew to Orange County when the long days really began. Disneyland’s regular hours were insane if you’re used to Orlando. Opens for everyone at 8am. Open until 10pm or later for everyone. And we sustained that for another 10 days. I’d imagine that, plus the jet lag inducing 11 hour flight east coming home is what did me in!

Kind of makes our usual 3 weeks in Orlando seem like a walk in the park 😂
 

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