Disney goes to trial over safety of Tower of Terror

Mickey121211

New Member
Hello everyone. I have been reading these boards for a while but have not yet had anything substantial to post, so I haven't (sorry). However, I was interested in all of the medical theories regarding this gentleman's unfortunate stroke and thought that I might be able to give some clarity to the subject. I hope some of you may find this interesting, but I will try not to include too many medical facts as to bore the masses.

From reading the news reports, it is likely that this guy suffered either a vertebral artery or carotid artery dissection. These are the four (2 on the left and 2 on the right) arteries that supply all of the blood to the brain. The carotids supply blood to the front of the brain and the vertebrals to the back. This man's symptoms would dictate which side and which artery were affected (weakness, speech difficulty, balance issues, coordination). Typically, a vertebral injury has a much better recovery than a carotid injury.

A dissection occurs when a small tear develops in one of the layers of the wall of a vessel and blood, instead of passing through the normal lumen of the vessel, now also enters a new lumen created by the tear. Typically, blood with still pass to the brain through the true lumen; however, this newly narrowed vessel significantly increases clot formation. These clots may propagate and pass into the brain's circulation causing a stroke usually hours to days after the dissection.

The most interesting thing is the cause of these dissections. I do not have percentages but some of the risk factors are blunt trauma, rapid rotation with flexion/extension of the neck, spinal manipulation (aka chiropactics), ceiling painting, yoga, nose blowing, smoking, high blood pressure, as well as some additional medical conditions, with trauma being the most likely

So while minor trauma can result in a dissection and a subsequent stroke days later, so can a lot of other things. It is impossible for us to say what may have happened to this gentleman during the 3 weeks between riding TOT and having the stroke (ie car accident, strong sneeze) or in the 60 years prior to coming to WDW. Having been on the TOT many times, I cannot say that my neck has ever experienced rotation or hyperflexion, but that's just me. Hopefully, the case can be presented in a way that 12 lay people with absolutely no medical experience can make the appropriate decision.

Sorry for the long medical lesson, like I said just thought some out there would find it interesting.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Hello everyone. I have been reading these boards for a while but have not yet had anything substantial to post, so I haven't (sorry). However, I was interested in all of the medical theories regarding this gentleman's unfortunate stroke and thought that I might be able to give some clarity to the subject. I hope some of you may find this interesting, but I will try not to include too many medical facts as to bore the masses.

From reading the news reports, it is likely that this guy suffered either a vertebral artery or carotid artery dissection. These are the four (2 on the left and 2 on the right) arteries that supply all of the blood to the brain. The carotids supply blood to the front of the brain and the vertebrals to the back. This man's symptoms would dictate which side and which artery were affected (weakness, speech difficulty, balance issues, coordination). Typically, a vertebral injury has a much better recovery than a carotid injury.

A dissection occurs when a small tear develops in one of the layers of the wall of a vessel and blood, instead of passing through the normal lumen of the vessel, now also enters a new lumen created by the tear. Typically, blood with still pass to the brain through the true lumen; however, this newly narrowed vessel significantly increases clot formation. These clots may propagate and pass into the brain's circulation causing a stroke usually hours to days after the dissection.

The most interesting thing is the cause of these dissections. I do not have percentages but some of the risk factors are blunt trauma, rapid rotation with flexion/extension of the neck, spinal manipulation (aka chiropactics), ceiling painting, yoga, nose blowing, smoking, high blood pressure, as well as some additional medical conditions, with trauma being the most likely

So while minor trauma can result in a dissection and a subsequent stroke days later, so can a lot of other things. It is impossible for us to say what may have happened to this gentleman during the 3 weeks between riding TOT and having the stroke (ie car accident, strong sneeze) or in the 60 years prior to coming to WDW. Having been on the TOT many times, I cannot say that my neck has ever experienced rotation or hyperflexion, but that's just me. Hopefully, the case can be presented in a way that 12 lay people with absolutely no medical experience can make the appropriate decision.

Sorry for the long medical lesson, like I said just thought some out there would find it interesting.
Keep delivering the lessons as I love science based medicine.:wave:
 

MAGICFLOP

Well-Known Member
It's a well known proven medical fact that a stroke is cause by an event that occured 23 days prior. Do the math, he was at Disney. Combine that with the fact that it is rare for a 68 yo to have a stroke, Open and shut. He will get millions....

Disney has to defend this. You can see the lengths people go to to file suit. Anyone who has a stroke within a year of riding TOT will have their hand out.
 

hrcollectibles

Active Member
It's a well known proven medical fact that a stroke is cause by an event that occured 23 days prior. Do the math, he was at Disney. Combine that with the fact that it is rare for a 68 yo to have a stroke, Open and shut. He will get millions....

Disney has to defend this. You can see the lengths people go to to file suit. Anyone who has a stroke within a year of riding TOT will have their hand out.

Looks like Disney won

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-disney-tower-verdict-20100503,0,875107.story
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
If this ruling does, yes. But if the attorney for the plantiff files an appeal, then it's back to square one......

Filing an appeal and winning an appeal are two different things. Also depends if the plaintiff wants to sink more money into a west coast high priced attorney's fees......
 

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
Let's hear it for a jury of their peers.....

Until the appeal, of course.....:brick:
I wouldn't worry about an appeal. If a jury saw through this case, an appellate judge (or panel of them) who does nothing but listen to lawyers talk about why they were screwed by another judge all day long is going to be even tougher to win over.

And I now proffer a gentle, friendly "told ya so" poke to the folks in this thread who said that a jury would be too dumb to see through this lawyer's histrionic smokescreens. :D

(And feel free to throw this post back in my face if the whole decision is somehow reversed on appeal/retrial.) :lookaroun :lol:
 

Ziggie

Member
Original Poster

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
The guy says his lawyer was prevented from making the argument that he was misled by the warning signs. I'd be really interested in hearing how that argument goes.

Something like "no signs informed my client that he could suffer a torn artery and have a stroke 3 weeks later"? :lol:
 

Ziggie

Member
Original Poster
The guy says his lawyer was prevented from making the argument that he was misled by the warning signs. I'd be really interested in hearing how that argument goes.

Something like "no signs informed my client that he could suffer a torn artery and have a stroke 3 weeks later"? :lol:

Good one Wilt! :lol:

How is one misled by warning signs anyway?
 

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