JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
Agree. But high guest satisfaction = more
Money.
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Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World
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Money.
Dranth
Well-Known Member
I think it is a worse system to get more/better short lines vs. G+. My point is that more/better selections are not as important as other factors for many guests.
On the booking front, I expect it will help because paying for an overpriced room with more benefits is better than paying for the same overpriced room with less benefits. I don't think it will move the needle much, but it will help a little.
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
It's not that I loved it
It's not that I loved it (but yes I did love it).
It's that they changed to a vastly inferior system that hurts pretty much all of their guests.
It's not that I loved it (but yes I did love it).
It's that they changed to a vastly inferior system that hurts pretty much all of their guests.
Never paid for the dining plan. Did like "Free Dining" though, When it was the full dining plan not the QS chicken finger plan.
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
So you think it makes more sense that they would have blindly changed to a system that is to the detriment of “pretty much all their guests”, rather than this new system being more beneficial for a segment of guests they are most concerned about spending more/being happier?
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
It should work that way. I very much want to believe that.
Getting rid of Magical Express was about money (in this case, saving Disney costs) and that was absolutely against guest satisfaction.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Nobody ever asked which system is “better”
Starting with Disney. I think that’s why you’re getting all twisted in knots.
The goal is not…really never was…to get most people on the largest amount of rides.
It started closer to that end of the spectrum…now they’d laugh privately at the suggestion
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That’s a very idealistic view
…but not really accurate depiction of 2024
It should be that way. But the master gets served first
Purduevian
Well-Known Member
Can you provide your day of experience? We haven't had many reports, but what day did you use it and what attractions did you end up with?
Are we allowed to make financial bets on this forum? If so, I would like to bet you a $50 donation to the Second Harvest Food Bank of central Florida (https://www.feedhopenow.org/site/SPageServer/) that the following will be in place on 10/31/2024 regarding LLMP.
- Pre-booking will still be 7 days for resort guests and 3 days for offsite guests
- 3 prebooks allowed with tiers remaining in all but AK (rides in the tiers might change, but there will still be tiers)
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
The biggest change I think we will see in the foreseeable future is the addition of the missing meet and greets. And maybe fireworks/parade viewing options like FP+ had if they’re really freaking out about capacity and availability over there.
In my own personal Fantasyland, they get rid of single pass and put everything under one system.
DisneyHead123
Well-Known Member
If it truly hurts almost all of their guests, it will no doubt change back quickly. Disney execs can be bean counters, but they're not masochists. If it costs pretty much the same, that's a no-brainer - it will default to what guests prefer.
I think you're assuming that your experience is representative of all guests though. For families with children in particular, the ability to plan ahead can be quite important.
Don't get me wrong, there are benefits to spontaneity as well, but Genie+ didn't really offer those benefits to our group. If someone was headed for a Stage 5 meltdown unless they could ride Barnstormer right now, it was pretty much never available at that moment. If someone had been steeling up their courage all day and decided they could ride Big Thunder right now, (but the moment would pass in like, 10 minutes,) it was pretty much never available.
On the other hand, preplanning would at least guarantee that we can plan around meals (many parents plan around naps, although the children in my family never sleep,) combine rope drop with a LL pick without risking that the ride we need won't be available later, and so on.
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
Here’s mine:
For free the app will tell you the shortest standby times at that moment.
Bring back FastPass+ with its same rules, Flat fee $10
Open ALL standby lines.
Offer LL single pass for a wider selection of attractions, limited the number of passes per day, flat fee $10 each
No virtual queues.
TheMaxRebo
Well-Known Member
Mine is get rid of LLMP and expand LLSP a bit - maybe 10-12 rides across all 4 parks
Omnimover and other high capacity rides really don't need a LL. Let those lines just continuously move
And then people can pick and choice what LLSP are worth it to them to skip the longer, slower moving lines
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
That puts the Fantasy in Fantasyland
. I like yours way better, can we blackmail someone at Disney to find a way to make it happen? They won’t even let you on a 10 year old rollercoaster one time for $10 today.
LSLS
Well-Known Member
Which is exactly why Genie is gone.
Basil of Baker Street
Well-Known Member
There's always standby.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…ummmm…no. Not gonna happen
Purduevian
Well-Known Member
3pm check for 7/31
| Ride | Normal return time | Best return time within the 5 refreshes | |
| Big Thunder | Sold out | 4:50pm | |
| Buzz | 6:00pm | 3:20pm | |
| HM | Sold out | 3:35pm | |
| Jungle Cruise | Sold out | ||
| Pooh | Sold out | ||
| Pirates |
| 3:30pm | |
| SM | Sold out | ||
| Tiana | Sold out | ||
| Frozen | Sold out | ||
| MS | Sold out | ||
| Remy | Sold out | ||
| MMRR | 6:30pm | ||
| MFSR | 5:35pm | ||
| RnRC | Sold out | 4:45pm | |
| SDD | Sold out | ||
| TSMM | Sold out | ||
| ToT | Sold out | ||
| Kali | Sold out | ||
| Navi | Sold out | 5:20pm |
MK: Good options on refresh.
EPCOT: Hope you already got Frozen/Remy/MS (MS and 1 other should have been one of your prebooks)
DHS: Not bad considering ToT and TSMM could have been prebooked. Only SDD didn't appear
AK: Surprised Navi popped up, but everything but these 2 are readily available, so book these 2 first
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Just so I have this right…you want more pay as you go only rides that you need a $150 gateway ticket that allows you to buy them?