JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
NO....Thats why I would allow resort guests to pick their first ride and VQ 7 days out for the length of stay, eliminating that, providing an on site benefit while also preserving inventory and spontaneity
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Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World
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Dranth
Well-Known Member
True, it is more like 98% of threads, I was overexaggerating saying 99%.
Besides, what is there to know? Until there are changes we have all the information we need. The only thing at this point is to watch availability. There are links on the front page for people who just want an informational only FAQ.
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
You have yet to provide these facts. I’d love to see em, and in not being snarky or sarcastic. Searching yields nothing but opinions.
I don’t think it’s logical Disney would move to a system that hurts more of its guests. I think they have better data than we do.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
I gotta say... I'm surprised they didn't just keep the system as it was and let everyone pick 1 attraction and/or ILL for each day of their trip ahead of time and let the rest operate like before during the day
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
DId you ever use Genie+? I did 2 weeks ago and went to HS on a 7/10 day rank on touring plans and got SDD, TOT, RNR, MMRR, TSMM, MFSR and bought ROTR
You cannot do that with this system
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
this 1,000,000%......it would have solved almost every issue and satisfied almost everyone, including Disney wallet and resort bookings
Chip Chipperson
Well-Known Member
Maybe, maybe not. It all depends on what return times they had to start and what return times are available for their additional picks. There's no guarantee that a rope-dropper will get 3 early return times for their pre-selected rides.
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
Yes plenty of times.
Your experience and my experience are not necessarily the majority experience. If we are getting all those, it follows that somebody else is missing all of it.
Our experiences are not facts and data when making statements like it’s worse for most.
nickys
Premium Member
You have to use one first. Then you can.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
I guess they believe this new system helps people feel better about paying for it when they are guaranteed at least 3 attractions each day
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
are we seeing tier 1 availability during the day?
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
Thats just not true....the inventory was more spread out vs taken all at once
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
Maybe, but reality is, you got more than 3 and you got better quality rides with Genie+...
One advance pick isn't good enough. Three is the number.
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
with 2 ILL's, first pick and VQ, you would have up to 4 pre booked and then eligible to book an additional pick 2 hours after park opened or if you used ur pick, while preserving inventory
Dranth
Well-Known Member
Really? You think the new extra half hour is a better system for resort guests than the old EMHs? A lot of people would disagree with that if you do. How about Deluxe only getting evening hours? Dropping ME or pre fixe menus? Those are better for most guests?
Look, this system may turn out fine despite what some of us see as major problems and I am 100% positive Disney will tweak things to address some of the more glaring issues but let's not pretend Disney hasn't made plenty of decisions that hurt large swaths of guests.
JD80
Well-Known Member
What are you modifying? Everything sold out on Day -2.
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
The inventory is finite. If you could get more with Genie+ than you can with LLMP, it is reasonable to say somebody else is getting more with LLMP than they actually did (not theoretically could) with Genie+. If you’re not getting it, somebody else is. It doesn’t matter from that angle when it’s distributed.
Still waiting on the facts and data. From where I stand, the most information we have from Disney is what can be gleaned from their actions (I don’t agree that they are out to lunch enough to switch to a system that makes the majority of their guests less happy). They also had a disclaimer on Genie+ that you could expect 2-3 attractions per day. Given all of that, I find it very unlikely that the average guests experience reflected yours or mine.
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
Maybe.....But the reality of it was, Genie+ was 100x more efficient than this sytem....it yielded more rides and better quality rides
Here is an example of a good day at a leisurely pace for us.
Roll into AK around noon. with the following prebooked 7 days out.
FoP paid LL
Safari
EE
Navi
Paid LL for Guardians at EPCOT.
Grab a late night LL for Soarin after using first LL.
Dinner ADR at EPCOT.
6 rides without a long line. Great day.