Chi84
Premium Member
It's the difference between value and worth. Many here do not accept it.
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World
- Thread starter wdwmagic
- Start date
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
I am seeing that, lol!
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
So, lets play this out then. If you're worried about the $30 (times however many people) for LL MP, how is having to fight for every second of use somehow a better use of your time/money than saving potentially $500+ per night for dropping down a resort category? You realize it doesn't make sense, right?
I value convenience. So a closer room and easier time is worth more to me than just trying to steal every second of LL.
Purduevian
Well-Known Member
7am wake up isn't even eliminated if you want a VQ.
Disneydad1012
Active Member
Yup!! And now I'm concerned since our MK day is the 2nd day of our trip...if things like Tianas and other tier 1's are already gone at that point then I would not buy at all and just rope drop what we can.
osian
Well-Known Member
And international guests - they don't even get non-resort guests privilege. Unless of course they start their holiday in the USA 7 days before going to WDW, as we are reminded, so of course they're not disadvantaged in any way and shouldn't complain about it because people here don't like it.
Purduevian
Well-Known Member
They didn't say they were worried about spending the x*$30, they just want to maximize the value of it. I think everyone also wants to maximize the "value" of their hotel, but people value different things at different rates.
How much is being at a monorail resort "worth"?
How much is a nicer hotel room "worth"?
How much is a nicer pool "worth"?
The answer is different for everyone.
How much is LLMP "worth"?
The answer is also different to everyone, but everyone pays the same. I don't think it's odd to want to maximize that "worth"
TheMaxRebo
Well-Known Member
Good news is you can see this before buying it and if you do see these then just don't buy it
Way better than buying into something ahead of time with no idea what the availability will be
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
It IS odd to do so to the level of obsession.
The point isn't trying to find out its 'worth'. The point is that obsessively trying to maximize every second of your day to the point where you find yourself 'stuck' in your phone is whats taking away from the perceived 'value'.
You can try to say 'people value things differently' all you want, but you're still spending the money on those things. If you're worried about maximizing the $30 LL but not the $500 hotel, that doesn't jive with each other. Get the cheaper hotel and not worry as much about needing to hit every single ride and filling every single minute.
Purduevian
Well-Known Member
11:30am on day one. I see the following attractions sold out:
MK: Big Thunder, HM, JC, Pooh (coming in and out), Pirates, SM, Tiana. Buzz is also past 9pm
EPCOT: Frozen, Mission Space, Remy. SSE is bast 8pm
DHS: Indy, RNRC, Slinky, TSMM, ToT
AK: Kali, Navi
MK: Big Thunder, HM, JC, Pooh (coming in and out), Pirates, SM, Tiana. Buzz is also past 9pm
EPCOT: Frozen, Mission Space, Remy. SSE is bast 8pm
DHS: Indy, RNRC, Slinky, TSMM, ToT
AK: Kali, Navi
TheMaxRebo
Well-Known Member
I look at best value - so often yes, it is the lower level hotels and cheapest flights, but if the 2nd cheapest flight is significantly more convenient I will book that one as there is value there
Same thing with food, if the thing that looks the best to be is more expensive I will get it but if only a little bit better than something cheaper I will get the cheaper item
It is maximizing value - which isn't always the cheapest but cost does play a role for sure
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
Genie+ had plenty of availability....I would always get all of the top rides in every park and that was not entering the parks until 2pm or later..........
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
First I will say that no matter what they do to change this, there isn't enough capacity for this to work.
Second when it comes to value, we personally don't see value in this system going back to FP. A lot of it is how we tour parks. For my family paying to have short waits for 3-4 rides is not worth paying the cost. If I'm paying for shorter waits I want to be able to ride things multiple times and get as many rides as possible.
Second when it comes to value, we personally don't see value in this system going back to FP. A lot of it is how we tour parks. For my family paying to have short waits for 3-4 rides is not worth paying the cost. If I'm paying for shorter waits I want to be able to ride things multiple times and get as many rides as possible.
TheMaxRebo
Well-Known Member
Unless they add "day of" capacity
Pre-booking capacity may be separate/not the total .... But we shall see in the coming days I am sure
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
Problem is, if its not there when people go to pay, they will most likely not buy
easyrowrdw
Well-Known Member
That’s time I would prefer to be visiting with my family. As the planner, there was always a push-pull between that time and the “need” to figure out what we’re doing next. With FP+ we had our plan ahead of time and it usually went fine. Only much later in the day did it become more of a free-for-all that required more regular attention.
TheMaxRebo
Well-Known Member
Correct - which is better than people buying, then not seeing it, and complaining to guests services
If this really hampers sales (total $) then they will either have to add capacity or increase the price
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
We know which they will most likely do. It may end up being a good thing if they raise the price to the point that those who do buy it get good value from it.
I would be ok paying $50 a person if it means there is availability all day long.
DCLcruiser
Well-Known Member
I hear you. I am usually just with my wife. So, being cranky with each other in the heat usually made phone time ok. Haha.
Chip Chipperson
Well-Known Member
That's just a disingenuous argument. You're suggesting that there is no value - real or perceived by the guest - in the larger rooms, better transportation options, proximity to MK, better pools, and better on-site dining offered at a deluxe resort like GF compared to All-Star with its bus-only park transportation, smaller rooms, lower-quality pools, and QS-only food court. Getting value from a hotel room is subjective. Some only care about a cheap room with enough beds for their group. Others want the comfort features of a deluxe and will have a "pool day" to maximize the value, for example. That's why there are different resort (and room) levels with different prices. G+ didn't have tiers within an individual park. There was no "5 LLs for $X or 2 LLs for $Y" option. If you were in MK then you paid the cost of G+ for MK that day. "Maximizing value" then likely becomes getting as many rides (or as many "good" rides) as possible, which means more time on your phone.