News 'Disney Enchantment' coming to Magic Kingdom October 1 2021

[Disney Glimpses]

I feel like those magical nights at MK died back in October 2016…. Or some would say June 2010 lol. HEA did do, I suppose, what it was meant to do and that is be popular enough to be all MK needed at night. But then the 50th happened. It’s been a obvious decline over the years for sure.
Very true though that many guests never got to experience what used to be. That combined with the vast majority that go to WDW just don’t care. Exactly what those in charge of WDW want. Very sad.

Happily Every After was more often than not a mind blowing moment for first time viewers. It really did a good job of selling people on the high ticket price they just paid. When “veterans” brought their friends/family there for their first visit, the show was a must do item on their itinerary. And none of this was an expected outcome by the company as HEA was designed to be a bridge show. They were pleasantly surprised and almost made the decision to just leave it be. I wish they had.

 

[Crazydisneyfanluke]

I feel like those magical nights at MK died back in October 2016…. Or some would say June 2010 lol. HEA did do, I suppose, what it was meant to do and that is be popular enough to be all MK needed at night. But then the 50th happened. It’s been a obvious decline over the years for sure.
Very true though that many guests never got to experience what used to be. That combined with the vast majority that go to WDW just don’t care. Exactly what those in charge of WDW want. Very sad.

I thought I was over it, but it still hurts

RIP SpectroMagic

 

[MisterPenguin]

Happily Every After was more often than not a mind blowing moment for first time viewers. It really did a good job of selling people on the high ticket price they just paid. When “veterans” brought their friends/family there for their first visit, the show was a must do item on their itinerary. And none of this was an expected outcome by the company as HEA was designed to be a bridge show. They were pleasantly surprised and almost made the decision to just leave it be. I wish they had.

They were so pleasantly surprised by the crowd reaction, that they figured "we don't need to immediately create a new night/light parade!"

And so... they changed it!

 

[Disney Glimpses]

They were so pleasantly surprised by the crowd reaction, that they figured "we don't need to immediately create a new night/light parade!"

And so... they changed it!

From what I understand, the pressure built to change it when it became apparent that WDW 50 could not be celebrated as originally imagined. It was a low hanging fruit with relatively low overhead. They felt the need to offer something new, and a new nighttime spectacular is a great place to start. The problem isn't in that idea, the problem is the show just isn't comparatively very good.

Both Disney Enchantment and Harmonious received huge pyro cuts. The original debut of HEA had more shells per minute than DE which was supposed to be the big new WDW 50 show. Harmonious was supposedly going to have launch points above each of the countries around WS.

 

[Disone]

You sure? This was a night where steadily, Frozen was at 105 minutes and Land was 30 minute

Yes I am sure. Clearly you took pictures on a very slow night at EPCOT. The posted wait time you reference could have been either grossly exaggerated or due to the attraction being 101 earlier in the day. But harmonious is not playing to empty crowds. Here is tonight.

 

[TheEPCOTHistorian]

Yes I am sure. Clearly you took pictures on a very slow night at EPCOT. The posted wait time you reference could have been either grossly exaggerated or due to the attraction being 101 earlier in the day. But harmonious is not playing to empty crowds. Here is tonight. View attachment 621501

Based upon the results from data collection, as shared previously by members on this board, Harmonious only barely outperforms both of it's predecessors with younger audiences. Those in and above the 20-25 bracket rare it ar a poorer performance. Also, a congregation of people near Port of Entry does not constitute full viewing areas around the lagoon. Nearly every Epcot show has filled the lagoon to the gills, even those before IROE, Illuminations 25, and 'Illuminations'. Heck, even Laserphonic Fantasy was more packed. Restaurants around the lagoon are beginning to notice too. Showing the crowd near the mouth of WS is the same as showing the area directly near the Partners Statue. It's the most common area for congregation. During previous Epcot shows the ENTIRE LAGOONS viewing area would be occupied. Now the back remains completely dead. I see it here every day.

 

[Kevin_W]

Happily Every After was more often than not a mind blowing moment for first time viewers. It really did a good job of selling people on the high ticket price they just paid. When “veterans” brought their friends/family there for their first visit, the show was a must do item on their itinerary.

I completely agree with those 2 statements for our family. Wishes we enjoyed, but didn't make a point in our day to see it... HEA was amazing for us. When my parents went down, we made sure it was on their itinerary.

 

[Disone]

Based upon the results from data collection, as shared previously by members on this board, Harmonious only barely outperforms both of it's predecessors with younger audiences. Those in and above the 20-25 bracket rare it ar a poorer performance. Also, a congregation of people near Port of Entry does not constitute full viewing areas around the lagoon. Nearly every Epcot show has filled the lagoon to the gills, even those before IROE, Illuminations 25, and 'Illuminations'. Heck, even Laserphonic Fantasy was more packed. Restaurants around the lagoon are beginning to notice too. Showing the crowd near the mouth of WS is the same as showing the area directly near the Partners Statue. It's the most common area for congregation. During previous Epcot shows the ENTIRE LAGOONS viewing area would be occupied. Now the back remains completely dead. I see it here every day.

Your observations and my observations are both antidotal and different. The lower crowds could be more of a function of lower attendance at Epcot. But I've seen crowds where you say there are none. More than that I've been to the show so many times.... a literal countless number of times and honestly, the crowd reaction in very favorable.

 

[UNCgolf]

Your observations and my observations are both antidotal and different. The lower crowds could be more of a function of lower attendance at Epcot. But I've seen crowds where you say there are none. More than that I've been to the show so many times.... a literal countless number of times and honestly, the crowd reaction in very favorable.

The poorer performance ratings aren't anecdotal; they're from actual data collection by Touring Plans.

They rely on survey answers so it's not scientific data, but the ratings for Harmonious are significantly lower than the ratings for RoE almost across the board.

 

[TTA94]

Apparently Disney is sending out surveys on Enchantment now, asking if it’s better, about the same or worse than HEA and Wishes.
I’d love to know these responses lol.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Apparently Disney is sending out surveys on Enchantment now, asking if it’s better, about the same or worse than HEA and Wishes.
I’d love to know these responses lol.

I haven’t received a survey but am hoping I do because I have a lot to say lol

 

[TTA94]

I haven’t received a survey but am hoping I do because I have a lot to say lol

Agreed! Lol

 

[Disney Glimpses]

For those wondering exactly what the survey looks like. I would love to see the results of this one.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Happily Ever After was a PAC ordeal every single night. And that's a good thing. That is not the current experience with Disney Enchantment; seems as though guests are more willing to pass on viewing it (either enjoy attractions, dine or simply leave the park early).

 

[gerarar]

This begs to differ about DE crowds lol

 

[Squishy]

This begs to differ about DE crowds lol

The video has Halloween decoration up so it was around the time of it's debut.

 

[gerarar]

The video has Halloween decoration up so it was around the time of it's debut.

Then they lied about it being filmed in 2022! Not surprised..

 

[Disone]

Then they lied about it being filmed in 2022! Not surprised..

Clearly yes.

 

[Disone]

The poorer performance ratings aren't anecdotal; they're from actual data collection by Touring Plans.

They rely on survey answers so it's not scientific data, but the ratings for Harmonious are significantly lower than the ratings for RoE almost across the board.

Touring plans has also "factually proven" that fast pass lines did not slow down the standby lines.

 

[UNCgolf]

Touring plans has also "factually proven" that fast pass lines did not slow down the standby lines.

No they didn't.