Disney considering VIP and other add-on options to their tickets....

Epic Epcot

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I love the VIP and All-Inclusive pass ideas; I also think the after 3 passes are a great value, too.

On the whole "Wal-Martification" issue, I think WDW is for everyone; both Average Joe and Mr. Moneybags included; customizing your vacation to suit your budget is something Disney should have done a long time ago.
 

CDavid

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Sounds like a Mall Walker Pass to me...And I agree this is rather stupid..How the heck do you enjoy everything when EVERTHING Involves a Queue..:hammer::brick:

Everything doesn't involve a queue. None of the parades or nighttime shows (Illuminations) do, nor do any of the shops or restaurants, if you're there primarily for dinner or something. Essentially nobody is going to buy a $82 pass to dine in World Showcase, but at $29 - with Illuminations and the shops thrown in - some people might bite. Quite a lot of exploring your might do in Animal Kingdom (way premature a question, but I wonder if the two major walking trails would be considered to have a "queue"?) without stepping foot in an attraction queue.
 

trr1

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Some of the ticketing options mentioned like the two half day tickets and the touring ticket seems like they would just make it more difficult for the ride ops. I mean how are they going to enforce an opening to 3pm ticket? Are all of the guests going to have to constantly show their tickets or will you have to slide your tickets to on turnstiles to each ride to gain access? Seems kinda far fetched.
could they just use a stamp of some kind on the back of your hand if you are just touring and not riding?:shrug:
 

trr1

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I refuse to believe that "All-Inclusive Disney Resort" could be that inexpensive. Perhaps they left off a zero? :eek:
All-Inclusive Disney Resort (Walt Disney World) – Unlimited food and non-alcoholic beverages, resort recreation (boat rentals, parasailing, etc.), amenities (Internet access, gym, etc.) ($40 – $80 per person, per night. Does not include room rate.); or park tickets
 

PeoplemoverTTA

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I would absolutely pay $125 for a "Character Night." This is a splurge, sure, but I wouldn't use a day on my park hopper...that would probably be a DtD day, and then I would enjoy the nighttime experience. I'd budget it in, for sure.

For a few years, I was traveling to WDW 2-3 times per year. Then, with the economy, it was down to once every 18 months - 2 years. It was gonna pick back up now that my financial situation has improved, but I'm thinking I'd rather save up and do a few premium experiences (if they were to come to fruition) and travel once per year, rather than stay a little cheaper (maybe a mod instead of a deluxe) and go 2-3 times.

This is all hypothetical of course, but it would affect how I plan my vacations for sure. While I couldn't afford to do all the things proposed, I'd sure what to save to do a couple of them.
 

Thrill

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I refuse to believe that "All-Inclusive Disney Resort" could be that inexpensive. Perhaps they left off a zero? :eek:

If I had to guess, it's restricted to certain restaurants. Universal has the meal deal which is about $20 a day, but only 2-3 counter service restaurants in each park participate. Considering that the nightly room rate isn't included, it seems like a reasonable price on Disney's end.

As for the rest, it seems alright. The VIP Fastpass seems a bit expensive, so I can't see it being used often. Other than that, I can't see it hurting anyone, really. Character nights sounds like it could be pretty cool, but the holiday pass is a bit confusing. Isn't this what MNSSHP is, just more expensive? A touring pass would be pretty neat to just enjoy the atmosphere of World Showcase, eat, and watch Illuminations. The before/after 3:00 pass sounds pretty nice too. The theme park clubs also sound like really good deals, and I think they might be among the more successful of these offerings, if it ever happens.
 

Monorail Lime

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All-Inclusive Disney Resort (Walt Disney World) – Unlimited food and non-alcoholic beverages, resort recreation (boat rentals, parasailing, etc.), amenities (Internet access, gym, etc.) ($40 – $80 per person, per night. Does not include room rate.); or park tickets
The regular (arguably limited) dining plan is already ~$40 per person, per night. Unlimited food plus all of those other amenities is either an incredible deal or a pipe dream even at twice the price.
 

the-reason14

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I hope this is just wishful thinking because I do not like any of it. Especially the vip fastpass. I would hate feeling isolated like that, and wouldn't that make fastpasses "sale out" quicker? If not, even with all the problems they already have, that would just make it worse ie longer fastpass wait times.

Hope this is nothing more than an article because it would probably be a few more nails in the coffin for me and WDW.
 

Spike-in-Berlin

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As for the rest, it seems alright. The VIP Fastpass seems a bit expensive, so I can't see it being used often. Other than that, I can't see it hurting anyone, really.

Of course it does. Even if the VIP-Fastpass is only an additional privilege to a still existing normal FP it will affect both normal Fastpassers and Standbyers.
If the VIP-Fastpass allows unlimited Fastpasses you can do all Fastpass attractions in a very short time. There are a lot of Fastpasses that run out before afternoon, sometimes even in late noon. With the VIP-FP owners this will be even faster as they can get FP without having to wait for 1 1/2 hour or even more before they can get their next one. And I already mentioned 150 bucks is not THAT expensive, it's quite affordable. If you stay for ten days, my next trip length, then thats only 15 $ per day and person for guaranteed access to all FP-attractions. A lot of people could afford it, I could afford it and in opposite to any other privileges like special tours, better hotels etc. it would negatively influence the trip of every single guest who cannot afford it. And if they would really introduce it I would even feel forced to buy it because I don't want my disney experience to be harmed by much longer waiting lines at FP-attractions and still I would feel quite bad about it because I know that my privilege harms the fun of others.
 

si23

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I don't think the option of not riding rides would work as usually everyone
who goes wdw has a ride they must do / like such as splash mountain or small world. Also the fastpass one seems stupid as we all know if used correctly you can get on all your fav rides mulitple times in one dAy
 

SwooshOU

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dreamfinder

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All-Inclusive Disney Resort (Walt Disney World) – Unlimited food and non-alcoholic beverages, resort recreation (boat rentals, parasailing, etc.), amenities (Internet access, gym, etc.) ($40 – $80 per person, per night. Does not include room rate.); or park tickets

Well, if its at CS only, with only certain locations I can see it happening. The $40 for food isn't that far off from what they already charge for 2 meals plus 2 snacks, just swap the snacks for a meal. And as a PP said, if you set it up like Universal, where I believe only certain meals are included, and you can only get 1 at a time, it's not that bad. So one person just keeps cycling through the line. Well, if they need to wait 15 minutes each time due to only using one queue for the unlimited food, suddenly feeding a family of 4 off that 1 unlimited meal takes an hour. No longer such a deal. The free inet, gym use is a trivial additional cost for WDW unless they need to start expanding those resources, then it starts to cost a bit more, but unlike food there is minimal costs associated with another person using it. Resort recreation could be a tougher sell. At least at $40. If they bring it up to $80, then yeah. Sounds good to me. Disney would theoretically break even on that. And then you either burn a park day for not much time, or you end up eating your meals at resorts. And if the free food is CS only, no big loss to them as that is fairly inexpensive. And if you want TS, well suddenly you are paying out of pocket so Disney ends up making money on the deal.

The regular (arguably limited) dining plan is already ~$40 per person, per night. Unlimited food plus all of those other amenities is either an incredible deal or a pipe dream even at twice the price.

Remember, the $80 isn't that far out of line what is currently offered with their premium package at $165 per person on top of your MYW package. 3 TS Meals (No V&A's), La Nouba, photopass cd, some tours, resort activities and unlimited child care. Or the platinum package, at $220 per day, but deluxe only. That includes 3 TS meals (V&A's is accepted), a fireworks cruise, Richard Petty ride along, more tours, plus everything at the lower levels. If you look at the premium, and take out La Nouba, and the tours, you are pretty close to the cost they were mentioning for food and resort activities only. Cheap La Nouba tix are ~$80, and so are the tours. So if you do La Nouba, or a tour each day on the premium plan thats a better deal than unlimited TS + paying for one the tour/la Nouba out of pocket. So it's not out of the realm of possibility.
 

Next Big Thing

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I like most of these things, but the Character Experience thing seems like a major ripoff. I mean, it seems like they basically took the old E-Ride nights, changed the name, added characters and food and said "We're gonna charge them $125 for something they used to get for $12, except now, you get Characters and Snacks!"

I mean the MNSSHP prices are $60/per person for adults. Two Adults could go to what a party I already know is way better then anything they will throw out there with the Character party given the description, for LESS than what it would cost ONE PERSON to go to this party. With MNSSHP you get the incredible atmosphere of characters in halloween costumes, trick-or-treating, boo to you parade, Hall-O-Wishes, less people in the park, Halloween decorations, etc. The only thing possible that the Character Experience could do to step up a little bit with the description given is have a lot of rare characters out, thus making it a little bit more worth it.

Basically, you get everything you could (accourding to what the description says) at the character experience and WAY MORE at MNSSHP and end up paying less than you would for one person to get in to the Character Experience party. I honestly do like the other stuff from the survey, but you can't tell me, given what i've just provided in the post, that this party is not a ripoff of epic proportions.
 

docdebbi

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i am tired of those with more money being treated better than those with less. yes, you should be able to buy more expensive things, but not be treated better. disney is the one place where we should all be equal. i could swing the extra cost for unlimited fastpasses, but i don't believe it is morally right. i shouldn't be treated better than anyone else (i.e.- get to wave to you as you stand in line and i pass you all by), because i earn more than you (or my father left me more money than yours). i know universal does this, one of the reasons i don't go there! we are all equal !
 

Kristamouse

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I love the ideal of an after 3.00 pass. My in laws have a home in Naples FL and we visit them often and usually do not go to WDW on that trip. We would come to WDW more if we could drive over in the AM go to lunch on the Monrail and head to MK....or and a much better ideal, leave the kiddos with Grandma and Grandpa and go to Epoct after 3.00. My Aunt and Uncle live in Tampa and really like Disney but get tired after a long day and are over crowds. They would love the after 3.00 option for the other parks (they know about Epcot after 4.00)...
As for the all inclusive, might not be doable every year but it would be great. I love the dining plan, throw in a sea racer or drinks by the pool....SOLD Now that I am thinking about it I am susprised Disney hasn't done this yet, with the popularity of the Apple style vacations on the Mexican Riveria.
 

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