Disney considering VIP and other add-on options to their tickets....

[Buried20KLeague]

I still don't see an issue. Let's say this unlimited fastpass thing is in effect. How will anyone know who is using it and who is not. They won't be wearing buttons saying "I can get unlimited fastpasses!" and cast members will all the sudden focus their attention on them. It's the same as saying everyone can ride the monorails, but the cast members really pay attention to those guests who are staying at a Deluxe Resort on the monorail line.

Thing is... You might be right. And it might be no big deal.

OR...

They could totally change how fastpasses are distributed and when and how, and it WILL be easy to tell.

There's no way of knowing.

You're right that this is a survery, too. But it sounds fairly well thought out, and I think where there's smoke there's fire, as far as this list goes.

 

[panther726]

Thing is... You might be right. And it might be no big deal.

OR...

They could totally change how fastpasses are distributed and when and how, and it WILL be easy to tell.

There's no way of knowing.

You're right that this is a survery, too. But it sounds fairly well thought out, and I think where there's smoke there's fire, as far as this list goes.

True. However, if I'm not mistaken, Disney has patents for some sort of tiered fastpass system. I know that was a couple of years ago, and I haven't heard anything about that lately. Now THAT, would have a tremendous impact on fastpass distribution.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

True. However, if I'm not mistaken, Disney has patents for some sort of tiered fastpass system. I know that was a couple of years ago, and I haven't heard anything about that lately. Now THAT, would have a tremendous impact on fastpass distribution.

See, that's what I'm talking about. That could all be part of this.

 

[devoy1701]

True. However, if I'm not mistaken, Disney has patents for some sort of tiered fastpass system. I know that was a couple of years ago, and I haven't heard anything about that lately. Now THAT, would have a tremendous impact on fastpass distribution.

this is probably an implentation idea of that very tiered FP system. Different levels of access based off of different types of tickets. But instead of basing it off of Resort level, it looks like they're leaning towards pay vs. non-pay. But again...it's not going to be plastered on the users who has what type of access to the system.

 

[UberPlannerMom]

Did anyone else notice that with the VIP fastpass thing it didn't say $150 per person per day? The per day was missing.... if you are going for 10 days and it is $150 for the whole trip then that would be a $15 a day upgrade... still more than I would output in our present financial situation, but not overly unreasonable.

I do have a bit of a problem with the touring tickets. My problem is that the people with those tickets can't do shows. I have grandparents who don't ride rides. I always thought it was idiotic that they paid the same amount to get in that everyone else did since most of what they did was warm the benches waiting on us to get out of lines and off rides. But they always loved the shows... I don't see any reason for them to not go to the shows. Yes, I know it said shows with ques, but which ones don't have a que at all? The fact that they included that leads me to believe that they are calling the gathering rooms ques. If you are going to offer this type of ticket then it shouldn't have sooo many restrictions on it that no one would want it!

 

[CaptainWinter]

Yes, I know it said shows with ques, but which ones don't have a que at all?

My guess is those are parades, fireworks, street shows, etc. Things they couldn't prevent you from seeing if they tried.

The fact that they included that leads me to believe that they are calling the gathering rooms ques. If you are going to offer this type of ticket then it shouldn't have sooo many restrictions on it that no one would want it!

It doesn't seem like a very attractive product to me. I think almost no one would buy it.

 

[devoy1701]

Did anyone else notice that with the VIP fastpass thing it didn't say $150 per person per day? The per day was missing.... if you are going for 10 days and it is $150 for the whole trip then that would be a $15 a day upgrade... still more than I would output in our present financial situation, but not overly unreasonable.

I do have a bit of a problem with the touring tickets. My problem is that the people with those tickets can't do shows. I have grandparents who don't ride rides. I always thought it was idiotic that they paid the same amount to get in that everyone else did since most of what they did was warm the benches waiting on us to get out of lines and off rides. But they always loved the shows... I don't see any reason for them to not go to the shows. Yes, I know it said shows with ques, but which ones don't have a que at all? The fact that they included that leads me to believe that they are calling the gathering rooms ques. If you are going to offer this type of ticket then it shouldn't have sooo many restrictions on it that no one would want it!

I agree. Hopefully those who got the survey were smart enough to comment on such a thing.

 

[Tigger1988]

It doesn't seem like a very attractive product to me. I think almost no one would buy it.

Photography enthusiasts would without a doubt take advantage of this ticket.

 

[fosse76]

Do you feel like you are any less of a person when you see someone with a VIP Tour Guide??? You see the tour guide, but you not having one does not negatively affect your experience. How would having these ticket tiers be any different at all? You wouldn't be able to tell by looking at them who has a premium Unlimited Fast Pass ticket or who got to use a separate VIP entrance.

I don't, but the population of VIP Tourists is so small it doesn't adversely affect anyone. When you make certain perks available on a larger scale, it will begin to adversely affect people.

Why worry about something that isn't going to affect you directly. Is it the idea that bothers you? Are you bothered by the fact that you'll (and most of us for that matter) will never get to stay in the Castle Suite or get to access Club 33????

inaccessibilty to Club 33 or the Cinderella Suite doesn't have any impact on me. If Club 33 were a regular restaurant people had access to except at certain times, then it would affect me. As it is, is has no effect. Same with the suite. The fact that someone pays $1000/night to sleep in the castle has absolutely NO impact on my vacation.

stop griping...there are many MANY amenities that alot of us can't afford, or don't want. There's nothing wrong with Disney wanting to cater some of it's offerings to the higher class.

You're right, until it affects the enjoyment of the park by others. Increasing the wait times of attractions, charging more for entry and then limiting entry because it is a holiday, offering a premium service for reservations, does impact those not paying the upcharge.

Disney DOES have a responsibility to its stockholders...but also its customers, who come first. Like it or not, opinions of a company can have an effect on its share value. If people think that the overpriced admission doesn't even get you a "normal" experience, it will have an impact.

 

[jt04]

I applaud these type applications that allow guests to customize their experience.

And I agree with earlier, the half day tickets would likely become touring tickets after 3:00. They would not run you out of the parks.

Does anybody know if the 10 year 7 day plan require you to use all your days in a given week or could they be essentially 7 "one day park hoppers" that could be spread out throughout the year? :shrug:

 

[BrittanyRose428]

To differentiate which guests only purchased half day tickets Disney could use different colored wrist bands? Thats usually what they do all other resorts to show which guests are all inclusive, and can/can't drink, etc... I think the half day tickets are a great idea though.

 

[ChrisM]

To differentiate which guests only purchased half day tickets Disney could use different colored wrist bands? Thats usually what they do all other resorts to show which guests are all inclusive, and can/can't drink, etc... I think the half day tickets are a great idea though.

I'm sure they could, but that's a bit of a pointless system if/when RFID is implemented.

 

[jt04]

To differentiate which guests only purchased half day tickets Disney could use different colored wrist bands? Thats usually what they do all other resorts to show which guests are all inclusive, and can/can't drink, etc... I think the half day tickets are a great idea though.

Me too. I also like the touring plans especially if they are considering allowing people to purchase individual attraction tickets if they choose to. Seems like the perfect option for some who don't necessarily want to ride the same attractions multiple times but love the parks/parades/fireworks etc.

 

[jakeman]

We don't know how, when, or if these changes would be implemented.

Therefore, there is no way to know how it will impact guest who do not partake in the extra benefits.

 

[Horizonsfan]

The only ones that were remotely appealing were the one week per 10-year ticket and the half-day ticket. Many of the other tickets bother me and seem to suggest that Disney thinks $82 should only get you the most basic of access.

 

[Dwarful]

I guess I am just fed up with the nickel and dime impact at WDW. I am also concerned about quality vs. quantity. I have been on the boards since 2002, vacationed at DL and WDW as a child and now as an adult. I have seen the quality and service slowly decline these last few years and it makes me sad.

As most people are talking about the FP's I can see the concern. Will they limit the number of VIP FP's each day at each park? If not this may directly impact the other guests. They already run out of FP's early at TSM and Soarin', if extra FP's become available this will directly impact the standby line and might even impact the FP line. This summer we used FP's at TT and still had a 20 min. wait in the FP line.

I am just going to wait and see, but they have to walk a fine line as 'the Wal-Mart' group may decide Universal and other Orlando area attractions are a better deal. They have a lot of Value priced rooms so they depend on Value guests. Those guests may or may not have the Disney loyalty we board fans have.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Touring Only / No Rides Ticket – Access to theme parks to enjoy everything except the rides and shows with a queue (between $29 and $49 per guest, per day);

What is the point of this? And how would it be enforced. It would have the same logistical problems as the opening-to-3pm ticket. And let's say it is RFID technology that unlocks turnstyles as it scan your ticket. What's to stop a guest from simply hopping over the turnstyle. Disney's non-confrontational approach to guests practically guarantees the guest won't be questioned.

Sounds like a Mall Walker Pass to me...And I agree this is rather stupid..How the heck do you enjoy everything when EVERTHING Involves a Queue..:hammer::brick:

 

[UberPlannerMom]

In talking to my hubby something else popped in to our heads as an issue with the fastpass VIP- if it is that there is no limit to how quickly you can get a new fastpass from the machine then wouldn't you just get the VIP on one person in your party and then pop your ticket into the fastpass machine as many times in a row as the number of people you are truly traveling with? Just wondering...

 

[CaptainWinter]

In talking to my hubby something else popped in to our heads as an issue with the fastpass VIP- if it is that there is no limit to how quickly you can get a new fastpass from the machine then wouldn't you just get the VIP on one person in your party and then pop your ticket into the fastpass machine as many times in a row as the number of people you are truly traveling with? Just wondering...

I thought about that too. My guess is you'd only be allowed to hold one fastpass per attraction per person at a time.

edit: or at least till the "time to next fastpass" had expired, like a regular guest.

 

[Dwarful]

I thought about that as well. Same thing w/ the unlimited food and drink. I could see some groups having one room get that and then spliting it up or sharing food and drinks. Perhaps having more smaller meals. Pretty much we will just have to wait and see how it plays out. But if people get upset over reused mugs..this may just give them a whole new set of things to fret about.