Disney CMs calling guests " Friends"?

LittleBuford

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Because not everybody experiences everything the same as you do.
I haven’t referred to my own experiences. I’m not one of the people affected either by “friend” or “sir”; I’m happy being called either. As I’ve already indicated, my views are based on what others have reported their experiences to be.
 

Goofyernmost

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Which is exactly why it’s best to NOT use gender specific terms when greeting someone.
I agree and not doing that means that there is not relationship designation necessary at all. Anything said in a light and truly respectful manner is all that is necessary. Now if they had the ability to know your actual name that would be more seriously taken but would also be weird and downright terrifying. However as a group greeting, Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls should be something that everyone could relate to based on their own internal identity. Or even Friends or Folks should also cover group situations, just not individually.
 

Californian Elitist

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In parts of the north of England, people affectionately refer to each other as “duck”, which actually derives from “duke”. Just imagine how much that would make the literalists’ heads spin!
I’ve regretted not studying a lot of subjects in college. Linguistics is one of them. I’d honestly love to be called “duckie” lol.

There is no such thing as Standard English, or any language, which is actually really cool. The only languages with rules and standards are the dead ones that are no longer evolving. Linguists will tell you that. Also, people have been speaking in metaphors, symbolism, and hidden meanings since forever.
 

LittleBuford

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There is no such thing as Standard English, or any language, which is actually really cool. The only languages with rules and standards are the dead ones that are no longer evolving. Linguists will tell you that. Also, people have been speaking in metaphors, symbolism, and hidden meanings since forever.
I do think there is such a thing as Standard English (Standard French, etc.), meaning the variety used in formal communication, but the standard is evolving rather than fixed. “Thou” was once the standard pronoun for the singular second person (except when addressing superiors) but was already obsolete by the eighteenth century and is now so misunderstood that people think it’s more formal than “you” rather than less (hence Darth Vader’s incorrect “What is thy bidding, my master?” to the emperor). Not only does standard language change, but it isn’t “better” than other regional or communal varieties. Every accent, dialect, etc. is interesting and legitimate in its own right.
 

MickeyLuv'r

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I’ve regretted not studying a lot of subjects in college. Linguistics is one of them. I’d honestly love to be called “duckie” lol.

There is no such thing as Standard English, or any language, which is actually really cool. The only languages with rules and standards are the dead ones that are no longer evolving. Linguists will tell you that. Also, people have been speaking in metaphors, symbolism, and hidden meanings since forever.
An interesting aspect of American spelling of the language came about because of one person, Noah Webster.

He wasn't necessarily the first person to come up with the new versions, but he created inexpensive (cheap) spelling books that were used in many schools, in large part because they were inexpensive.

Even today, in some cases, one person can come up with a new word or spelling, and it sticks. Truthiness comes to mind. [The spellchecker had no problem with truthiness, but it still doesn't like MagicBand.]
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
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Eh!! And a happy day to you, paisano!!
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TrainsOfDisney

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I agree and not doing that means that there is not relationship designation necessary at all. Anything said in a light and truly respectful manner is all that is necessary. Now if they had the ability to know your actual name that would be more seriously taken but would also be weird and downright terrifying. However as a group greeting, Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls should be something that everyone could relate to based on their own internal identity. Or even Friends or Folks should also cover group situations, just not individually.
That’s pretty much how it is…. When I board the Main Street trolley they typically just say “welcome aboard, lower your head and watch your step” but then when addressing the whole trolley they often say “hello friends, please stay seated….”
 

Californian Elitist

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I do think there is such a thing as Standard English (Standard French, etc.), meaning the variety used in formal communication, but the standard is evolving rather than fixed. “Thou” was once the standard pronoun for the singular second person (except when addressing superiors) but was already obsolete by the eighteenth century and is now so misunderstood that people think it’s more formal than “you” rather than less (hence Darth Vader’s incorrect “What is thy bidding, my master?” to the emperor). Not only does standard language change, but it isn’t “better” than other regional or communal varieties. Every accent, dialect, etc. is interesting and legitimate in its own right.
I definitely get where you’re coming from. I believe one of the reasons linguists say Standard English doesn’t actually exist is because what’s considered “Standard English” may not be the same amongst all the Englishes in the world. So not only does it evolve and is ever-changing, but it’s different, depending on the country. For example, in American English, we don’t use “whilst.” Also, from what I understand, the Oxford Comma is mostly an American thing and isn’t common in Great Britain (I could be wrong about this).
 

LittleBuford

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I definitely get where you’re coming from. I believe one of the reasons linguists say Standard English doesn’t actually exist is because what’s considered “Standard English” may not be the same amongst all the Englishes in the world. So not only does it evolve and is ever-changing, but it’s different, depending on the country. For example, in American English, we don’t use “whilst.” Also, from what I understand, the Oxford Comma is mostly an American thing and isn’t common in Great Britain (I could be wrong about this).
Great point! There is no one universally accepted standard.

As for the Oxford Comma, it is used in British English (I believe it gets its name from the Oxford University Press), but you’re right that it’s more widely encountered on this side of the Atlantic.
 

Californian Elitist

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Great point! There is no one universally accepted standard.

As for the Oxford Comma, it is used in British English (I believe it gets its name from the Oxford University Press), but you’re right that it’s more widely encountered on this side of the Atlantic.
Question! Is “theater” spelled like “theatre” in British English?
 

Californian Elitist

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An interesting aspect of American spelling of the language came about because of one person, Noah Webster.

He wasn't necessarily the first person to come up with the new versions, but he created inexpensive (cheap) spelling books that were used in many schools, in large part because they were inexpensive.

Even today, in some cases, one person can come up with a new word or spelling, and it sticks. Truthiness comes to mind. [The spellchecker had no problem with truthiness, but it still doesn't like MagicBand.]
Something I learned in my Shakespeare class as an undergrad is that the various American accents are closer to what many English folks actually sounded like in the in the 15th, 16th, and 17th centuries. Londoners didn’t start dropping the hard “r” sound until sometime in the 18th century.

You’re absolutely correct about the creation of new words and spellings. The word “adulting” immediately comes to mind.
 

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