StageFrenzy
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Same reason the harry potter franchise marathons on ABC Family.
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Disney and Universal: Two very different paths
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Same reason the harry potter franchise marathons on ABC Family.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Because Disney Channel has no IP anyone cares about so they need SOMETHING to boost their ratings, I find it rich in irony that Disney has to show UNIVERSAL IP because they have NOTHING recent which anyone cares about.
With the exception of John Carter and the Lone Ranger which are the canonical examples of how NOT to make a movie However they did achieve the previously impossible task of making 'Xanadu' and 'Heaven's Gate' look like masterworks...
spacemt354
Chili's
If I recall, Harry Potter films were shown on ABC Family long before WWoHP. So if we are going to tie that into the notion of Disney showing Universal IP because they have nothing else to show, I don't think it qualifies.
And in regards to showing Despicable Me, that is kinda odd. But I don't think it was shown due to lack of Disney IPs that people care about. I think that's a stretch considering they have at their disposal several Pixar films that could be randomly selected and people would watch. They also have a few new animation films such as Tangled, Meet the Robinsons, etc that I have seen on the channel as well. And in addition to all that, the late 80s-90s era classic Disney animation films that never get old, and original Disney channel movies.
That's why I find it odd they showed Despicable Me. Though, there could be deals behind the curtain that we don't know about. For instance, The Office is shown on Fox and TBS, however it originally aired on NBC. Same with Seinfeld. Aired on NBC but shown on different channels. I think that could be more of a plausible answer rather than the idea they have no IPs that people care about.
maxairmike
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The entertainment industry is notoriously incestuous. If showing another studio's movie on their channel makes them enough profit, they really don't care who made it.
It was, essentially, poor maintenance. The ropes that tie the rubber portion to the base of the rafte were loose and caught on to the pipe. The same thing happened a few months later at Six Flags New Engalnd. This happened after Premier Parks purchased the Six Flags chain and started downsizing the maintenance staff. But even so, there were always employees positioned around the ride path. In my experience, Disney is the only company that doesn't (seemingly relying on cameras instead, which is ineffective against guests purposefully misbehaving).
Jimmy Thick
Well-Known Member
Week ending Dec 1 top 10 cable shows:
1 NFL REGULAR SEASON L ESPN Mon 08:27P-11:32P 13159
2 Walking Dead AMC Sun 09:00P-10:01P 12051
3 TALKING DEAD AMC Sun 10:01P-11:00P 6023
4 GOOD LUCK JESSIE: NYC CHR DSNY Fri 08:00P-09:00P 5788
5 COLLEGE FOOTBALL PRIME L ESPN Sat 07:41P-11:04P 5715
6 WWE Entertainment USA Mon 08:00P-09:00P 4318
7 WWE Entertainment USA Mon 09:00P-10:00P 4292
8 HALL ORIGINAL MOVIE HALL Sat 08:00P-10:00P 4245
9 TOY STORY 2 DSNY Wed 10:00A-11:40A 4167
10 SOUL TRAIN AWARDS BET Sun
08:00P-10:30P
Week ending Dec 8 top 10 cable shows:
1 NFL REGULAR SEASON L ESPN Mon 08:27P-11:51P 204 15500
2 THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL NFLN Thu 08:30P-11:49P 199 4633
3 Sons Of Anarchy FX Tue 10:00P-11:33P 93 4577
4 Gold Rush DISC Fri 09:00P-10:01P 61 4220
5 MAJOR CRIMES TNT Mon 09:00P-10:01P 61 4212
6 SPORTSCENTER: L ESPN Mon 11:51P-01:00A 69 4207
7 American Horror Story FX Wed 10:00P-11:04P 64 4066
8 INCREDIBLES, THE DSNY Sun 09:00A-11:00A 120 3953
9 THE SANTA CLAUSE FAM Sat 07:00P-09:00P 120 3901
10 LITTLE MERMAID,THE(MOVIE) DSNY Sun 08:00P-09:35P 95
3833
Week ending Dec 15 top 10 cable shows:
1 NFL REGULAR SEASON L ESPN Mon 08:28P-11:38P 16192
2 THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL NFLN Thu 08:30P-11:28P 8943
3 DUCK DYNASTY XMAS SPECIAL A&E Wed 10:00P-11:02P 8885
4 Sons Of Anarchy FX Tue 10:00P-11:51P 5172
5 TANGLED DSNY Sat 09:00A-10:45A 4996
6 DUCK DYNASTY A&E Wed 09:00P-10:00P 4942
7 TANGLED DSNY Fri 07:30P-09:15P 4368
8 MONSTERS, INC. DSNY Sat 12:45P-02:25P 4239
9 WWE Entertainment USA Mon 08:00P-09:00P 4218
10 HEISMAN TROPHY L ESPN Sat 08:00P-09:08P
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Disney films on the Disney Channel, and original IP's like Good Luck Jesse, among others are kinda always some of the highest rated shows on cable. For people to make claims otherwise without any easy to obtain research is a little far fetched. A little more clarity to this situation concludes overall value of the channels to any cable provider, like say Comcast.
If the ESPN family of channels were to hit the open market, they would easily fetch over 50 billion. The Disney Channel 10 billion at the very least. No other channels on the net fetch that kind of green, that why those two channels cost cable providers the most to have on their menu.
More proof? Comcast tried to buy Disney in 2004 for one reason and one reason only, ESPN, that way if anyone tried to pull channels off Comcast or bump up how much Comcast would have to pay, Comcast would have told them well, you lose us you lose ESPN, but Disney laughed at Comcast's bid. That by itself make me laugh when people say Comcast could dump Disney's channels and still remain competitive.
* Jimmy Chuckles *
Jimmy Thick- Disney owns A&E as well...
Jimmy Thick
Well-Known Member
Just a little more fuel to the fire about how bad the Disney Channel is supposed to be.
Here are last weeks prime time viewer ratings for all cable channels:
Prime-time Average Viewers (Live+SD) Week Ending December 15, 2013:
Network (000s)
ESPN 3463
DSNY 2364
USA 2145
HALL 2034
A&E 2016
FX 1960
FAM 1869
FOXN 1758
HIST 1731
TBSC 1683
AMC 1646
DISC 1541
TNT 1429
LIFE 1352
NFLN 1303
ADSM 1155
BRAV 1084
HGTV 1077
FOOD 990
NAN 949
SYFY 916
TLC 887
SPK 875
TVLD 798
CMDY 798
ID 796
Out of the top 5 cable channels currently available, Disney owns 3 of them. The Disney Channel is consistently the second most watched channel during prime time, after ESPN of course, and doing a little easy to find research, some of their current shows, original IP's, are among the highest rated shows they offer, not to mention reruns of old Disney films which always draw high ratings. None are as huge a hit as Hanna Montana, but to call them worthless IP's is a bit of a stretch, the facts simply prove its not correct.
It also dismisses the notion Comcast could survive and prosper without the channels Disney offers and Comcast pays a fortune for. Saying, even thinking they could survive without the top two rated channels on cable is absurd.
So lets put this one to bed.
Jimmy Thick- Boring Friday morning, I know, trust me...
Here are last weeks prime time viewer ratings for all cable channels:
Prime-time Average Viewers (Live+SD) Week Ending December 15, 2013:
Network (000s)
ESPN 3463
DSNY 2364
USA 2145
HALL 2034
A&E 2016
FX 1960
FAM 1869
FOXN 1758
HIST 1731
TBSC 1683
AMC 1646
DISC 1541
TNT 1429
LIFE 1352
NFLN 1303
ADSM 1155
BRAV 1084
HGTV 1077
FOOD 990
NAN 949
SYFY 916
TLC 887
SPK 875
TVLD 798
CMDY 798
ID 796
Out of the top 5 cable channels currently available, Disney owns 3 of them. The Disney Channel is consistently the second most watched channel during prime time, after ESPN of course, and doing a little easy to find research, some of their current shows, original IP's, are among the highest rated shows they offer, not to mention reruns of old Disney films which always draw high ratings. None are as huge a hit as Hanna Montana, but to call them worthless IP's is a bit of a stretch, the facts simply prove its not correct.
It also dismisses the notion Comcast could survive and prosper without the channels Disney offers and Comcast pays a fortune for. Saying, even thinking they could survive without the top two rated channels on cable is absurd.
So lets put this one to bed.
Jimmy Thick- Boring Friday morning, I know, trust me...
What is absurd is the continued childish thought one has to be better than the other. Comcast are doing very well from the parks and are more than happy. The Walt Disney Company are obviously raking it in too.
What's different is where each spends it's profits.
Now you can put it to bed.
What's different is where each spends it's profits.
Now you can put it to bed.
Jimmy Thick
Well-Known Member
Um, do you really think if Comcast or Disney's stock tanked they would be building anything?
So yes, in a way, television revenue kinda does matter, like it or not it effects how much bang for your buck you get.
Jimmy Thick- Debit to equity ratio, Comcast is getting pretty iffy...
BryceM
Well-Known Member
Just ignore it..
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
I do. He is just an obvious troll. And not even a good one. I don't know why anyone responds to Thick's Schtick.
TubaGeek
God bless the "Ignore" button.
When either stock tanks, let me know. Till then I'ma go enjoy myself.
raymusiccity
Well-Known Member
Well, this isn't too shabby!
YahooFinance just named Disney the company of the year for 2013 !
"Disney (DIS) is a 90-year-old company that's also the first brand most two-year olds learn to love. The company was built on hand-drawn cartoons, yet its interactive Disney Animated program was Apple Inc.’s (AAPL) “2013 App of the Year” for the iPad.
The Walt Disney co. has honored the past, delivered in the present and positioned for the future better than any other American company. It's the company's successful striking of this rare balance – while focusing on careful financial stewardship and great customer experiences – that helped Disney edge out all others to be named this year's Yahoo Finance Company of the Year.
For the second year, our editors and writers used a blend of quantitative and subjective standards to recognize one company for its financial performance, shareholder friendliness, strategic focus, employee relations and customer loyalty.
Disney did not have the most stellar stock performance in the Dow Jones industrials or even its industry. Other big companies had greater gains in earnings or more headline-winning product launches. Netflix (NFLX), Tesla Motors Inc. (TSLA) and Facebook Inc. (FB) all captivated growth investors’ attention more dramatically, to name just three worthy of consideration.
We closely considered two other companies that performed well against big perceived challenges: Mattel Inc. (MAT) continues to exploit the growing overseas toy market and shares its copious cash flow with investors, despite worries traditional toys are on the wane. And Boeing Inc. (BA) overcame threatening quality issues with batteries on its crucial new Dreamliner jet to secure bountiful new orders and stand as a huge investor winner.
But no company other than Disney delivered so much consistent quality in its products, produced more-balanced growth with global reach or shared more cash with investors while also investing for future growth.
Here are highlights from Disney’s 2013:
- Revenue and profits reached new highs for a third straight year. Disney shares have gained 38% for the year, more than ten percentage points better than the broad market, and have doubled over the past two years.
- Film releases generated the best box-office results in Disney history, with $4 billion in ticket sales heading into the holiday-movie season.
- Company theme parks in California, Florida, Tokyo and Hong Kong posted record attendance.
- The consumer-products division posted its first $1 billion profit year – without fully benefiting from the Star Wars bonanza to come following its Lucasfilm acquisition.
- Disney cable networks led ratings for kids aged 2 to 11.
- The company repurchased $4.1 billion in shares in fiscal 2013 and raised the common-stock dividend by 15%.
- Disney once again ranked third among 60 leading U.S. companies in Harris Interactive’s Reputation Quotient survey, which encompasses factors including product quality, trust, social responsibility and treatment of employees. In a small but significant gesture, as Obamacare took effect, Disney offered full-time positions to select part-time park employees so they could get health benefits...."
Jimmy Thick
Well-Known Member
Brilliant observation by Yahoo, someone has been reading my posts here, I just couldn't agree more.
Jimmy Thick- Wait a second, no mention of Comcast? What about the Potter area? * Jimmy chuckles *
Captain Chaos
Well-Known Member
Be careful DH... Being a troll on WDWMagic is perfectly fine... But calling the obvious troll a troll isnt... Expect a warning in 3... 2... 1...
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
That's because a lot of people on this board cannot tell the difference between a troll and a person with strong personal beliefs in their opinion. A troll will leave a topic that is controversial and let it run it's course. A person with opinions will not only present a topic that might be emotional, but, also sticks it out and continues the discussion. That person will become a Troll only when the opposing viewpoint cannot sufficiently argue the point and dispel it's validity. Mr. Thick could be wrong in his beliefs or he could be right. What bewilders me is why people insist that they must be correct. An opinion cannot be wrong. It is what a person thinks based on what they know or don't know about a topic. The world does not stop turning because they do not agree with others. You can always tell when someone has run out of convincing argument, they resort to name calling (Troll, Pixie Dusters, ignorant and others) and insist that the other be ignored.
maxairmike
Well-Known Member
I'd agree in general, except Mr. Thick (and others) consistently return to the well of invalid/pointless arguments and points even though many here (myself included) have spent far too much time setting things straight, which may not be trolling, but certainly a contrarian style. A great example is the oft-used attendance numbers argument, seemingly a favorite of Mr. Thick's. Board contrarians are as useful as a troll, IMO, not much difference.
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
That may well be true, but, the argument only continues because we let it by responding and attempting to contradict over and over. Stop joining in and the posts will stop as well. Simple math. There are no winners in continuing the discussion with no end.