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Disney and Universal: Two very different paths
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Blufusion
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Where I live I have Bright House for internet. I get off air for my TV shows and the rest I buy a movie or have Netflix and other services. I had Direct TV from 1997 till 2007 . Over the years it just got too expensive and we get to watch shows we never would know about with Netflix. And yes I don't mind waiting to see a movie 6 months out. If I want to see it on the Big screen . The money we saved from not having DTV. we have enough to get out and enjoy life and have a 4 day vacation 3 times a year.
The Empress Lilly
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Imagine that. A fellow community member dares to be of different opinion even though you have set him straight. They even dare to think for themselves against 'the many'.
Off to a re-education camp in Siberia with those 'contrarians', says I.
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maxairmike
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There's a difference between holding an informed opinion against another opinion, and continually using an argument/point that has been proven wrong/pointless. Using attendance numbers to demonstrate Disney's superiority over Universal parks is like using...reviews and safety scores of a 1980s vehicle of brand X to argue you should buy a current car from brand Y.
Being a contrarian with opposite, but informed views may be annoying at times (because it is very easy to see through such a schtick), but at least there's validity to the opposing view. Being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian and just spouting whatever you can find to "support" your opposite view is very much troll-like, and even more annoying.
EDIT 2: A great example would be your stance and arguments about Starbucks coming to the parks, especially MSUSA. While I personally love having Starbucks there, you had very valid arguments, some of which I even agreed with. At times you seemed to me to play the role of contrarian in that conversation, but it wasn't that bad because your arguments and points were mostly spot on.
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TubaGeek
God bless the "Ignore" button.
Refusing to call Uni a theme park? His unwavering commitment to the notion that his word is absolute? His trend of derailing threads just to add a "WDW vs Uni" jab in there?
spacemt354
Chili's
I wouldn't call opinion against the norm "derailing a thread." I would call it an interesting read. Whether or not I agree with the validity of the information, I'd rather see different opinions as opposed to the same viewpoint post after post. Why try to silence someone who doesn't agree with you? Why resort to calling them names like troll?
The thread is called Disney vs Uni: Two very different paths. All opinions should be included. Regardless of whether individuals decide that their word is absolute or not, it has the right to be in this thread if it involves Disney and Uni.
I think jimmy thick makes a lot of good points I do wish he would recognize that universal is greatly improved and is gaining in the theme park market in Orlando...there is nothing wrong with saying universal is a much better experience today than 4 years ago and will continue to get better....theres also nothing wrong with saying Disney is still king
spacemt354
Chili's
I think it has more to do with people not wanting to hear opinions that counter their own. Fans are passionate. Someone who continually opposes a view will become annoying to someone who supports that view, because people want their views to be supported.
Edit: While it won't ever happen, I feel the best approach is to understand both sides of the aisle. Being passionate and unwavering isn't the best approach in a discussion. You have to be able to understand. However that goes for both sides. That goes for the people who view Disney in rose-colored glasses and it goes for the people who call Uni "haters" trolls.
TubaGeek
God bless the "Ignore" button.
I'm talking about a history shown over a number of posts in a number of threads; not just this one.
asianway
Well-Known Member
If I have them on ignore they have no value. At all
@Jimmy Thick sure did a good job in here. All everyone is talking about is his opinions and his veracity as a poster. I guess he is the "driving force of the boards!"
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Jimmy Thick
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I rock, I know.
It brings a tear to my eye when I think about how fearless I can be when it comes to my opinions about a vacation destination. Iam truly humbled.
Jimmy Thick- <-----Trendsetter, rebel, titan.
Zweiland
Well-Known Member
Beware, @[USER=29639]George. People who self-appoint or self-brand themselves to a position are usually just cult leader minded types and have closed the door on learning anything from an "outsiders" prospective. lol[/user]
edit: no disrespect intended to @Jimmy Thick. just playing around
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
And yet you all continue to feed the thread. Color me confused. Ignore it and walk away. You don't need to change his mind do you. If the examples aren't relevant, so what? Those that know already are convinced otherwise and those that don't will not really be swayed by a bunch of numbers. Anyone with a high school education knows what numbers and statistics mean. Whatever you want them too.
Jimmy Thick
Well-Known Member
Some of the most highly intelligent people rely on analytics to guide their corporations. Disney and Comcast more than likely have rooms of numbers crunchers doing their due diligence around the clock. Numbers and statistics are more valuable then some would think.
Jimmy Thick- Honestly.
Its like being a kid and feeding an animal at the Zoo that your not supposed to. Its just fun. I agree with what @spacemt354 said as well:
Whats the point of being here if we all agree on the same thing?
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Failure to understand the basics of the English language blows your argument completely out of the water.
I'm here for the fresh out of the oven cookies and the free drinks at midnight.
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
Only to those that are using them to justify their decisions, Jimmy! Some can be trusted due to the fact that even a broken clock is right twice a day, but many more are interpreted in a manner that will make their particular stand seem legit. Your numbers show that there are more visitors at WDW then Universal. Well...dah! Of course it has. WDW has a reputation that hasn't yet completely gone down the toilet and it is bigger and better known by more generations, therefore it is the winner in numbers. What the numbers don't tell you is if one is entertaining better then the other. Disney does a good job, but, lately Uni has been raising the bar quicker then Disney. If you recall it used to be Disney's reputation. They were the one raising the bar. I might be inclined to agree that Disney has not lowered their particular bar by very much, but Uni has raised it a little better recently. That doesn't mean that Uni overall is better then Disney, it just shows that like the old Hertz/Avis ads used to say...they are number 2 and they are trying harder. They may never completely catch up because they have to expand in a huge manner to do so. But, after 30 years of visiting Disney, I'd say that Uni is in the game, like it or not. Neither one is likely to fail catastrophically, but Disney's dominance and market share is compromised.
It's just that being in denial of that fact, will not change anything and being an entrenched fan of Disney is no crime, but, when you consider the fact that if Uni improves it will not put Disney out of business, then the entire discussion is useless. You like Disney and you don't like Universal, some like Universal and they don't like Disney, others like them both (me), some see one as slightly better then the other. What it all boils down to is so what? Like what you like, let them like what they like and that bit of advice applies to everyone.