But what is now being decried as “woke” in this context—the move towards more robust portrayals of female leads—has been standard in Disney (and other family) entertainment since the ’90s. “She’s not gonna be saved by the prince” applies just as much—and indeed more so—to Frozen. The shift in discourse has been much more extreme than the shift in actual representation. Nothing Zegler or Gadot said about the remake should have been enough to cause the kind of reaction we’ve seen. I really think some people are just looking for reasons to feel ideologically affronted.
So having seen the movie, their statements aren't incorrect based on the movie that was released though. And this is the problem with assuming based on a few comments 2-3 years before a movies is released without even seeing a trailer.
Good analogy. Let’s continue with that. If you marketed to me that you had made a new sandwich with jalapeños and cream cheese (I’m changing it because I don’t like peanut butter) I would probably come back.
You are assuming there’s a huge backlog of demand just waiting for space and crews though, which isn’t true, soundstages are struggling to stay alive from lack of demand.
This is a strawman. That has nothing to do with Snow White bombing, or Disney potentially cancelling other live action films. That has to do more with a shift by Hollywood to do productions in other states and countries. One that is hopefully helped by CA upping its tax credits to bring productions back to CA. But nothing to do with studios cancelling a future movie because a previous one bombed.
But why should they? It sounded like a trainwreck. The trailers looked like a trainwreck. And funny enough the majority of people think it's bad. Plus with the comments, why would they want to give it a chance?
I don't get this line of thinking. If your favorite store or restaurant said they hate you and they don't need your business, are you giving them your money? I highly doubt it. So why should the 10s of millions of people she insulted give the movie a chance? Especially since nothing they showed or said about the film looked good. Maybe, as I've said, more people give it a chance if this all stopped at, weird weird. But it didn't.
You're trying to conflate a bunch of things together that have nothing to do with each other.
I’m wondering how many had “From the river to the sea”
Here's the problem with what you are saying. There's a reason the saying, "you only get one chance to make a first impression". So not matter the analogy you want to use, it really doesn't matter. The first impressions of this film were bad. Therefore people wrote it off. Then all the comments pretty much guaranteed an extremely large group wasn't going to give it a shot. And the cherry was the movie was panned by most who saw it, giving it almost no chance of a bounce back.
For this analogy to hold, Disney, not Zegler, would have to have authored the remarks in question. All of us have given our money to businesses whose many employees include individuals who may dislike us. Zegler was speaking for herself, not the Disney Company.
The "filling" is the core plot of the story which neither actually described in their actual comments, they gave broad strokes of the plot, again a full 2 years before a teaser was release and 3 years before the full release.
Not only that she never even said she hated anyone, that is people putting their own spin on what she said.
And yet many a movie have bounced back after failing those first impressions. The famous one recently was "ugly sonic". Not to mention all the mocking of Chris Pratt's take on Mario's voice.
Well they sure as heck didn't disown the statements. So as I was told here, and many agreed with. If you don't condemn it you are endorsing it. No, I would never give my money at that moment to anyone who would disrespect me. And that's what we are talking about. She said it and people are staying away from that project. Just as you wouldn't eat at a place where the hostess insulted you and the manager did nothing. You might go back later with a new staff and management.
It's getting to the point of save the watches because it's getting deep. The only spin is this nonsense trying to justify what she said. I guess it's only hate when they don't agree with you right?
Sure they have. But I would like for you to post the quote of Pratt insulting half the country. Or maybe the one of him saying I don't need your business if you don't agree with me. If you're going to criticize people on there analogies, you might want to work on yours a bit. I didn't say it couldn't bounce back, I said it probably has no shot because of her comments. People complained about Marios voice for sure. To liken it to the issues with snow white is Disney defense at it's finest.
Did Zegler ever say this?
