Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

TP2000

Well-Known Member
There is this old, worn-out saying: "Get Woke, go broke".

This notion has been peddled for several years now we have thoroughly debunked it on these forums over and over again. Disney does NOT need to be concerned with this phrase and it's idea because it has been 100% proven wrong. Disney should not and will not be altered by any fear of this silly idea.

The new thing now is: "Snow White is going to flop because it's Woke". I'm certain this is FAR from the case. "Snow White" was the character that started the Disney studios and is very much an evergreen IP. The movie is going to be a huge success. Even if it slips a little bit, it won't be because it's "Woke". It will more likely be because of where they placed it in the spring movie season. This should have been marketed in the summer "blockbuster" months with a higher marketing budget. Even still, this movie is going to be an excellent box office performer.

We really need to end this "Get Woke, go broke" trope that somehow just won't dei. It's insulting and just not factually true in 2025.

Someone get that man a Bud Light! 🍺

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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
The vast majority of us have no problem not spending money on things like movies that don’t make us happy, and that’s becoming a problem for Disneys box office.

That’s a completely different topic than saying we don’t like Disney though, most of us still love the parks, DCL, the resorts, and even many of the movies, we just dislike many of the individual decisions the company is making.
So we should just leave, huh? 😎
 

Cliff

Well-Known Member
This is well-said. No one should be spending money on something that makes them unhappy.
Going further, nobody should spend money and be loyal to a brand because they used to make products you loved in the past. Those days are long gone.

It seems to me that Disney fans love the brand MUCH more than the people in Burbank love their fans. We need to see Burbank the exact same way they see us today.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Going further, nobody should spend money and be loyal to a brand because they used to make products you loved in the past.

It seems to me that Disney fans love the brand MUCH more than the people in Burbank love their fans. We need to see Burbank the exact same way they see us.
Exactly…which means the relationship is “unbalanced”…and it needs a correction like everyone’s 401K

(…too soon?)
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
I just saw a commercial for Snow White and I am going to say something controversial.

The commercial looks GOOD! For the "normal" person (not Disney fanatics here) a normal person not knowing anything about the movie, if commercials like the one I saw, can get the normal folks to buy tickets, it does not matter how bad the movie is, at least initially, until the word gets to the normal folks.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Going further, nobody should spend money and be loyal to a brand because they used to make products you loved in the past. Those days are long gone.

It seems to me that Disney fans love the brand MUCH more than the people in Burbank love their fans. We need to see Burbank the exact same way they see us today.
That's probably true, given the number of people who complain and still go to Disney movies and parks. Some correction is definitely going on there.

But don't forget the large numbers who buy Disney products because they love them the way they are now.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
A shrinking number in a growing world

So that doesn’t line up very well
Probably not. We'll see how it goes.

I don't know a lot of people who would spend money on something they don't like anymore just because it used to be good and they are hoping it will go back to the way it was. Maybe a restaurant or local business, but not an expensive vacation like Disney.

It's different with movies, since content is so changeable.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Totally agree. The point I was making, and I get it, I don't know what's for sure going through their mind. Is that the overwhelming majority got into it for the fame and lifestyle. That doesn't mean I think they don't love acting. But I can't see many wanting the scrutiny and lack of privacy and all that goes with it unless they want the fame and lifestyle. I'm sure there's some because it's never everyone or no one.
You think any young actor that is getting started in the business now and seeing other actors get bullied and dragged through the mud online by franchise fans are looking to get into that? I don't think so, it takes a toll on a person. Any sane person would steer clear of that for as long as possible. Or would try to take a break from it after already experiencing it, ie do other things for awhile before jumping into another franchise and the potential mud.

I get it, some here can't understand why someone trying to get business aren't doing franchises for the fame and fortune that go along with it. But that isn't the end all be all for actors.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
You think any young actor that is getting started in the business now and seeing other actors get bullied and dragged through the mud online by franchise fans are looking to get into that? I don't think so, it takes a toll on a person. Any sane person would steer clear of that for as long as possible. Or would try to take a break from it after already experiencing it, ie do other things for awhile before jumping into another franchise and the potential mud.

I get it, some here can't understand why someone trying to get business aren't doing franchises for the fame and fortune that go along with it. But that isn't the end all be all for actors.
Ding ding 🛎️

We have our first hate network sighting of the day. Can’t wait until we run into the tin man and the angry trees
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
You think any young actor that is getting started in the business now and seeing other actors get bullied and dragged through the mud online by franchise fans are looking to get into that?
Absolutely. Because what you say is going to happen no matter what. You don't seek out the Hollywood spotlight unless you crave and want it. Otherwise you can be a stage actor, Broadway... There's plenty of options if you're in it for the love of acting.
Any sane person would steer clear of that for as long as possible. Or would try to take a break from it after already experiencing it
Exactly! Any sane person. So going into it, you have to want it. But some get in and decide, huh, maybe I really don't want this. But the majority start off seeking that fame and fortune in my opinion.
 

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