Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[DisneyWarrior27]

We should probably just round that up to $27 Million. But even then, that's a tad weaker than I had thought it would do this weekend, it's last weekend unopposed by Mufasa or any hedgehogs. On Friday, I said...



The same trendlines of 50%-ish box office dropoffs week over week are holding overseas too, and that would seem to show that overseas is heading towards a final tally by early January of around $450 Million or so.

Now that it's already broken even, tomorrow or Tuesday when final weekend tallies are in from overseas and the USA, we can do an update on the profit that Moana 2 has already pulled in on its slow late December march towards.... $900 Million globally?

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Moana 2 (2024) - Financial Information

Financial analysis of Moana 2 (2024) including budget, domestic and international box office gross, DVD and Blu-ray sales reports, total earnings and profitability.

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Dude, it’ll do more than $450M OS with people around the world off for the holidays starting this weekend.

I’m telling you it’s going to hit a billion worldwide before Dog Man (the next actual animated film for families) comes out.

 

[TP2000]

For my 2 cents (and that's what it is worth, lol), I thought the animals in Mufasa in the trailers looked "off", just all wrong for some reason I can't put my finger on. I kept looking at them and wondering what is wrong? They just dont' look "right" to me.

I saw my first commercial on YouTube for Mufasa this morning. I agree, it looked off to me. The commercial focused on a warthog, but a few other animals were there too. It all looked just sort of.... weird. And the commercial wasn't very funny.

 

[TP2000]

Dude, it’ll do more than $450M OS with people around the world off for the holidays starting this weekend.

I’m telling you it’s going to hit a billion worldwide before Dog Man (the next actual animated film for families) comes out.

Well, maybe it would help Moana 2 in a perverse way if Mufasa bombs? Then you'd only have one Disney family movie in theaters worth paying attention to?

What's the buzz on Sonic The Hedgehog? I didn't see any merchandise or displays at Target for that the other night. Is the Sonic movie highly anticipated by families with young children? Or is it more of a teenage boy movie for the video game crowd?

 

[Tha Realest]

What happens if it does not hit a billion?

If it doesn't hit a billion WW then they will not retool the Tiana TV show for a hand drawn theatrical release over Thanksgiving 2029.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Sure is nice to be back to arguing over whether a Disney film will hit a billionrather than arguing over whether it’ll break even or not. As frustrating as a lot of Disneys decisions are I think we’d all prefer they be making money rather than raiding the parks to offset losses elsewhere.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

If it doesn't hit a billion WW then they will not retool the Tiana TV show for a hand drawn theatrical release over Thanksgiving 2029.

Oh yes they will.

 

[DKampy]

The CGI in The Lion King does not bother me the way it does in other movies… I think it is because the whole movie is CGI… so it feels like another art form to me… what takes me out of a movie is when CGI interacts with live action characters…. It always looks fake to me

I am in the minority here as I really liked The Lion King remake…the original is my favorite Disney movie of all time… as such I am really looking forward to Mufasa… it will expand on The Lion King story and it seams they have some talent inbolved

 

[Tony the Tigger]

The CGI in The Lion King does not bother me the way it does in other movies… I think it is because the whole movie is CGI… so it feels like another art form to me… what takes me out of a movie is when CGI interacts with live action characters…. It always looks fake to me

I am in the minority here as I really liked The Lion King remake…the original is my favorite Disney movie of all time… as such I am really looking forward to Mufasa… it will expand on The Lion King story and it seams they have some talent inbolved

I actually have not seen the live action. Maybe we’ll watch it on our Disney trip tomorrow in preparation for Mufasa!

 

[brideck]

Looks like Moana 2 was able to stay #1 with a drop below 50% with $26.6M (48%).

48% is just below the 46% that Frozen II had on the same calendar week, so it loses a little ground there. I'd estimate a ceiling of around $450m domestically now. [The comp for next weekend would be a drop of only 32% as kids & adults start to get out of school/work for the year.]

There are so many markets that I wouldn't know the first thing about trying to realistically estimate the international take, but it has finally kicked up over 50% from overseas, which is good news. I'd guess we're looking at something like $950m WW at this point with room to grow if the international legs stay good.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

48% is just below the 46% that Frozen II had on the same calendar week, so it loses a little ground there. I'd estimate a ceiling of around $450m domestically now. [The comp for next weekend would be a drop of only 32% as kids & adults start to get out of school/work for the year.]

There are so many markets that I wouldn't know the first thing about trying to realistically estimate the international take, but it has finally kicked up over 50% from overseas, which is good news. I'd guess we're looking at something like $950m WW at this point with room to grow if the international legs stay good.

I think there will be room for the international legs to grow.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

It's weird that there would be any concern over Moana 2's performance.

It has out grossed the original despite being a retooled streaming show. It feels like free money for Disney.

It has thus far earned more worldwide than Wicked, a movie that feels much more like a cultural event than Moana 2.

 

[brideck]

Just got back from seeing Searchlight's Nightbench. My spouse and I really enjoyed it despite (because of?) our not having kids. Feels like mandatory viewing for parents of young kids to help get them on the same page with each other. Amy Adams has landed a Globe nomination, so we'll see if she manages to wrangle an Oscar nod, too, despite it's complete lack of release.

It reportedly opened in only 82 theaters last weekend (which I can believe -- it was only in 2 in my market), and is not being tracked by any of the various numbers sites.

 

[donaldtoo]

I’m waiting for the hand-drawn, CGI, live action combo version of “The Lion King: The Final Milking…As Far as You Know…..” to come out.

 

[DKampy]

It reportedly opened in only 82 theaters last weekend (which I can believe -- it was only in 2 in my market), and is not being tracked by any of the various numbers sites.

It’s a shame too… my wife and I were interested in that film…. We looked…. It was not playing anywhere in our market… Our local theater we visit most was even giving old Christmas movies(Christmas Vacation, Elf, Polar Express)the all day in their own theater treatment… do those films really pack the crowds despite people seeing them dozens of times and being decades old in some cases…. If they felt the need for some Christmas movie viewing… they could not combine some of those in a theater and free some space for more variety

 

[TalkingHead]

Our local theater we visit most was even giving old Christmas movies(Christmas Vacation, Elf, Polar Express)the all day in their own theater treatment… do those films really pack the crowds

I mean they’ll sell more tickets to those Christmas titles than an Amy Adams mom-dog movie with mixed reviews and a bad trailer.

 

[DKampy]

I mean they’ll sell more tickets to those Christmas titles than an Amy Adams mom-dog movie with mixed reviews and a bad trailer.

That never stopped Kraven and Lord of The Rings, from going wide which reviews were worse…Amy Adam’s (one of my absolutely favorite actresses)is also getting Oscar buzz

As someone who goes to the movies every week…. I just want more variety….perhaps I am spoiled… We use to get smaller movies by me more often… until our local chain closed our less busy theater as they coild split the movies between them… and there always seemed a demand for those movies at the time….as the theaters were never emptied

 

[Casper Gutman]

Between Moana 2’s success and other recent high-profile events, I think it’s safe to say Disney’s output is going to become much, much “safer” and less innovative. It will be interesting to see how creative talent, particularly Feige, responds.

 

[Farerb]

Between Moana 2’s success and other recent high-profile events, I think it’s safe to say Disney’s output is going to become much, much “safer” and less innovative. It will be interesting to see how creative talent, particularly Feige, responds.

When was the last time it was actually innovative anyway??

 

[TalkingHead]

That never stopped Kraven and Lord of The Rings, from going wide which reviews were worse…Amy Adam’s (one of my absolutely favorite actresses)is also getting Oscar buzz

As someone who goes to the movies every week…. I just want more variety….perhaps I am spoiled… We use to get smaller movies by me more often… until our local chain closed our less busy theater as they coild split the movies between them… and there always seemed a demand for those movies at the time….as the theaters were never emptied

Agree that variety is sorely lacking. My personal gripe is the amount of daily showtimes the studios are able to get for their tentpoles. No reason Moana 2 needs to have twelve screenings per day during the week at my suburban multiplex. But then again Red One is still getting a handful of shows and it’s already on Amazon for free. Very little about the theatrical business makes sense these days.

 

[brideck]

Agree that variety is sorely lacking. My personal gripe is the amount of daily showtimes the studios are able to get for their tentpoles. No reason Moana 2 needs to have twelve screenings per day during the week at my suburban multiplex. But then again Red One is still getting a handful of shows and it’s already on Amazon for free. Very little about the theatrical business makes sense these days.

It just really comes down to market size. There is loads of variety out there, but it's only really in the biggest cities. TP gets 10+ movies, DKampy gets 30+ movies, I get 40+, my parents (in Detroit) get 50+, etc.

I don't know anything about the economics of running a theater, but it unfortunately makes a little sense to me that it would be cheaper to run a 12th showing of a movie even if only 5 people are watching it then it would to acquire an entirely different movie, add it to the schedule, and have only 5 people watch that.