The trailer played before the showing I was at last Tuesday.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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The trailer played before the showing I was at last Tuesday.
TalkingHead
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So they’re making live-action Moana (when’s that open?) and Moana 3. I guess when you stop successfully introducing new franchises you have to keep going back to the well. Suppose they’re cashing out in 2024 while they still can.
They'll still do originals! Give them time! And besides, they have to do sequels to get back on the box office.
When? Every non-Pixar animated movie on the announced slate into 2027 is either a sequel or a live-action remake. That also doesn't count Toy Story 5 or Incredibles 3.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
There is Elio and Hoppers, which I know are technically Pixar, but still I think the idea is that Disney is working on originals, WDAS should not be far behind.
Well, both Raya and Encanto had great critics' and audience scores, but floundered financially in the post-Covid malaise.
Strange World and Wish, however, failed on all accounts.
That's why the mandate to stick with proven franchises. Very clearly announced by Iger in quarterly calls.
Once everything is buoyed up with tentpole hits, I'm sure they'll return to new stories (as if most of their stories weren't already from fairy tales and children's books).
DisneyWarrior27
Active Member
I kinda hope they hold off on Encanto 2 and Moana 3 until 2030 and 2031, since 2025-2028 already has Zootopia 2, an untitled original, Frozen III, and Frozen IV.
Plus, there’s still the ever lingering possibility Tiana gets turned into The Princess and the Frog 2 for movie theaters in 2029.
So… don’t rush those two films.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Lol, you really need to get off that 2029 that doesn't even exist yet.
I tried to tell him, but he won't listen. I can safely presume that he has autism like I do, but he needs to let it go and not get his hopes up.
Mr. Sullivan
Well-Known Member
I don’t think that PatF is going to get turned into a film. There isn’t really demand for that. The only reason Moana’s show was converted was because of the undeniable popularity of the original film. People like PatF, but not enough for Disney to spend the money to pivot away from a series that’d due to release in less than a year.
DisneyWarrior27
Active Member
Well, we’ll see what happens.
But I’d like to imagine there are at least c-suite level conversations at Disney headquarters going on now about doing that.
easyrowrdw
Well-Known Member
I thought it was clever when I read The True Story of the 3 Little Pigs. But that was about it. I have no interest in learning about why the wicked witch of the west isn’t so wicked or is wicked but has a good reason for it or whatever the story is. It’s like everyone forgot that the “true” story of the pigs was a joke.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
This is different from any other point in movie history how?
Ghost93
Well-Known Member
This is a fine short-term strategy, but Disney still needs to create new movies so that it can potentially launch future franchises. Disney wouldn't have gotten the profits of Moana 2 without first taking the chance on the then-unknown/original IP "Moana" back in 2016.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
It’s not a short term strategy, it’s a layered strategy, and it’s a measured risk strategy.
Look at TCM and see all the old movies that had many sequels. Nothing new under the sun.
Indy_UK
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I give Disney a free pass on the sequels as it makes them big money and we want their box office to do well. They just need to remember that they need to make original stories in order to make sequels.
I need to be careful with the Moana burnout so quickly with a live action on the way too. That's probably also down to Dwayne Johnson also pushing the project.
I need to be careful with the Moana burnout so quickly with a live action on the way too. That's probably also down to Dwayne Johnson also pushing the project.
Hawkeye_2018
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Its funny to see all the complaining about sequels. Disney released quite a few original animated stuff over the last few years and they all mostly bombed. Elemental being the exception as it somehow found legs after looking like a bomb.
Also, good films like Moana deserve sequels. People want more from that "universe". The only problem I have is with another Toy Story. TS5 is an example of going way overboard on sequels.
Also, good films like Moana deserve sequels. People want more from that "universe". The only problem I have is with another Toy Story. TS5 is an example of going way overboard on sequels.
Ghost93
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That's why I was so frustrated about all of the original movies being hampered by COVID and being sent straight to Disney plus. Strange World was bad and Wish was — at best — blandly passable.
But Soul, Luca, Turning Red, Raya and the Last Dragon, Encanto and Elemental were all good or great. I think this was a very solid run of films and it's a shame that the company will move away from this in the near future in favor of sequels.
Fortunately, Zootopia 2 and Frozen III and IV are at least being conceived of theatrical-releases from the get-go, which should give them an artistic leg up from Moana 2.