Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

TP2000

Well-Known Member
How was everyone's Thanksgiving weekend? We're finally back with a big blockbuster movie from Disney to track in this thread!

Here's how Moana 2 stands compared to inflation adjusted Princessy remakes of the past few years, plus the gorilla in the room The Lion King remake from '19. Since it was supposed to just be an ABC Sunday Night Movie Disney+ streaming show, the budget for Moana 2 was an impressively low $150 Million, which is going to make getting it to profitability easy and fast for Burbank. They've got to be thrilled with that after the past few years! 💰

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Using the tried and true template of studio's averaging 60% of the box office take from domestic theaters, and 40% of the take from foreign theaters, and assuming a modest marketing budget of 50% of production budget, that gets us this current standing at the Box Office for Moana 2:

Moana 2: $150 Production, $75 Marketing, $135 Domestic Take, $66 Foreign Take = $24 Million Loss So Far

I'd imagine Moana 2 will go into the black and start making Burbank profit by this Friday evening, globally. Will it do the huge Billion+ box office of Beauty & The Beast or The Lion King? It doesn't seem to be on that type of track, but it's clearly already more successful than other live action Princessy remakes like Cinderella or Maleficent.

Moana 2 will make a tidy profit for Disney, and that's important! Off we go into December tracking...

Wish I could remember who or when we had the conversation that I thought Moana had become just as if not bigger than Frozen recently… based on how much it’s blowing frozen 2 out of the water, I stand by that conviction.

I got several little girls dressed as Moana on my front entry this past Halloween. Plus a gaggle of the usuals; Cinderella, Belle and Miss White. I didn't get a single Frozen girl this year, now that you mention it. I hadn't pieced that together as I made my post trick-or-treat martini on the 31st, until you just mentioned it! There's clearly been a pop-culture shift on Frozen amongst that young girl demographic.

 
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BrianLo

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I got several little girls dressed as Moana on my front entry this past Halloween. Plus a gaggle of the usuals; Cinderella, Belle and Miss White. I didn't get a single Frozen girl this year, now that you mention it. I hadn't pieced that together as I made my post trick-or-treat martini on the 31st, until you just mentioned it! There's clearly been a pop-culture shift on Frozen amongst that young girl demographic.

I’m aware of a few Halloween frozen toddlers, but the metric is shifting to Moana and Frozen a very close runner up. I think this second film will cement that until the Frozen sequels bring it back to the lime light.

The parks are sleeping on Moana outside of entertainment.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
The direct-to-video sequels were done by Disney Toon Studios, not WDAS proper. Their sequels to date:

The Rescuers Down Under
Fantasia 2000
Winnie the Pooh (2011)
Ralph Breaks the Internet
Frozen 2
Moana 2*

+ the upcoming Zootopia 2 and Frozen 3 and 4

Having said that, I hope future sequels turn out better than their last 3

I’m actually feeling pretty positive on Zootopia 2. Since we live in sequel land now, I wouldn’t mind a Big Hero 6 sequel.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
We were there already with Inside Out 2 and Deadpool & Wolverine.

Well, true, but that was after a very difficult and unprofitable few years at the box office.

This feels like things are almost back to normal; where Disney pumps out tentpole after tentpole (up next; The Lion King 5) that does boffo at the box office with ease and grace, each with an endcap in the Target toy department. If not a Happy Meal.

At least until Snow White in March. 🧐
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
Well, true, but that was after a very difficult and unprofitable few years at the box office.

One year, it really was only 2023. There’s a lot of mental math needed to ignore 2022’s Avatar 2, Thor 4, Doctor Strange MoM and Wakanda Forever.

Only WDAS has been fairly bumpy with a two flop run until now and Star Wars of course non existent. Pixar actually has been fairly consistent with one exception in 2023. Same with Marvel. 20th has been shockingly consistent and then Disney Live Action a veritable train wreck of phoned in remakes as it has more or less been for a decade under Alan.
 

Mr. Sullivan

Well-Known Member
It seems pretty inevitable that Moana 2 is going to cross a billion before the end of the year. Absolutely am anticipating the announcement of another sequel to a recent film in the coming months. My bets are on an Encanto follow up right now.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
That’s a missed opportunity.
As I mentioned previously in this thread (I believe it was here), it was playing in-front of Wicked.

So they are playing it to similar audiences, so not really a missed opportunity in my opinion. Also I suspect it'll play in-front of Mufasa.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
and then Disney Live Action a veritable train wreck of phoned in remakes as it has more or less been for a decade under Alan.
WDS had fixed their theatrical flop problem by pretty much stopping all theatrical wide-releases up until now.

Coming out of the pandemic, those releases have been:

2020 Mulan​
2021 Cruella​
2021 Jungle Cruise​
2023 The Little Mermaid​
2023 Indy 6​
2023 Haunted Mansion​

A mixed bag, IMO.

WDS made plenty of other content in that time frame, but it was all shunted to D+. Mercifully, considering it included the Live-Action Pinocchio and other forgettable stuff.


Upcoming...
2024 Mufasa​
2025 Snow White​
2025 Stitch​
2025 Freakier Friday​
2025 TRON: Ares​
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
I just saw the new Snow White trailer and it looks great. Are they running it before Moana 2?

I showed it to my husband and he wants to see it even though he has no interest in Disney movies. Cheers to the Evil Queen!
I have yet to see the new Snow White trailer to any movie I have seen…that includes Wicked and Moana
 

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