Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Disney Irish]

Sorry it isn't my kind of movie.
I'll refer you to the parents guide and see if Walt would have been proud to release this in his studio.

Poor Things (2023) - Parents guide - IMDb

Poor Things (2023) - Parents guide and Certifications from around the world.

www.imdb.com

Also the fact it made only $17m in six weeks. Even Wish made $63m in 8 weeks. No one is going to see it.

Walt has been dead for 58 years, also evoking him here doesn't make much sense as it wasn't released under the Disney or Buena Vista banners.

Also Disney has released films of similar graphic content over the years under its various banners so its not like this is the first time.

Lastly it was limited release until this upcoming weekend, so it was only going to get limited box office returns.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Sorry it isn't my kind of movie.
I'll refer you to the parents guide and see if Walt would have been proud to release this in his studio.

Poor Things (2023) - Parents guide - IMDb

Poor Things (2023) - Parents guide and Certifications from around the world.

www.imdb.com

Also the fact it made only $17m in six weeks. Even Wish made $63m in 8 weeks. No one is going to see it.

I’m someone. I went to see it. So did thousands of others. It’s a front runner for Oscar noms and it will be just fine.

 

[Phroobar]

Walt has been dead for 58 years, also evoking him here doesn't make much sense as it wasn't released under the Disney or Buena Vista banners.

Also Disney has released films of similar graphic content over the years under its various banners so its not like this is the first time.

Still no one saw Poor Things. Night Swim and FNAF did far better for horror movies. It isn't even talked about in the horror movie forums I visit. But if you need that kind of movie images in your mind....

 

[Disney Irish]

Still no one saw Poor Things. Night Swim and FNAF did far better for horror movies. It isn't even talked about in the horror movie forums I visit. But if you need that kind of movie images in your mind....

There were people that saw it, including myself and others in this thread. So this "no one saw it" is not correct.

Also Night Swim and FNAF had wider releases so of course they did better so far. We'll see what happens once it goes to a wider release, apparently starting this weekend.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Still no one saw Poor Things. Night Swim and FNAF did far better for horror movies. It isn't even talked about in the horror movie forums I visit. But if you need that kind of movie images in your mind....

People saw Poor Things. Period. And your comments about the content of the film mean absolutely nothing and are worthless since you did not see the film.

 

[TalkingHead]

Sorry it isn't my kind of movie.
I'll refer you to the parents guide and see if Walt would have been proud to release this in his studio.

That hasn’t been a concern of the corporate brand for 35+ years. Hardly worth bringing up now.

 

[BuddyThomas]

 

[DKampy]

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Deserved nomination

 

[TP2000]

Gore because the premise is a modified Frankenstein's monster one, so there are cadavers and surgery, mostly with a whimsical visual tone.

Disturbing material because anything that involves suicide as a plot element earns that flag and the general (albeit ridiculous) premise of the movie (which I won't spoil here) would be pretty disturbing if it asked you to take it seriously at all.

Graphic nudity as opposed to partial nudity because it's not just women from the waist up. It is both nearly 100% used for laughs throughout the movie and to point out the ridiculousness of human nature/behavior.

Yeah, as I said earlier, all of that is just not my scene. For movies, or for anything really. But I'm glad it's available for adults who seek out or enjoy that sort of entertainment.

“All” the actresses are not “very thin”. Please stop spreading fake news all over the place.

I hadn't even known about it until a popular LA radio station mentioned on Monday evening that the actresses on the Emmy's red carpet seemed suddenly very thin. Apparently a prescription for Ozempic is now mandatory if you live west of the Hollywood Freeway.

I'm looking forward to seeing the looks at the Oscars. That's another two months of prescription refills later, after all.

 

[DKampy]

Sorry it isn't my kind of movie.
I'll refer you to the parents guide and see if Walt would have been proud to release this in his studio.

Poor Things (2023) - Parents guide - IMDb

Poor Things (2023) - Parents guide and Certifications from around the world.

www.imdb.com

Also the fact it made only $17m in six weeks. Even Wish made $63m in 8 weeks. No one is going to see it.

Are you kidding me???…completely two different type of films and different strategy rollouts

 

[brideck]

Still no one saw Poor Things. Night Swim and FNAF did far better for horror movies. It isn't even talked about in the horror movie forums I visit. But if you need that kind of movie images in your mind....

This is probably because... and just hear me out here... it's not a horror movie. I'm not sure what would have given you that impression. I don't always fall back on Wikipedia, but it's described there as a "sci-fi black comedy," which is probably about as accurate as you can get for this. I'm not sure what you mean by "that kind of movie images" exactly, but I'd much rather have the largely joyful images from Poor Things in my mind over anything from schlockfests like Five Nights at Freddy's.

You also didn't really answer how it's a "bad" story. Saying something is not for you (without really knowing anything about it) and then falling back on the wisdom of the masses as an arbiter of goodness is not really doing it. Besides, if we're going to use tickets sold/eyeballs as some sort of measure of goodness that would mean that there are only something like 30 "good" movies in a given year, and for 2023 that would mean that at least 6 of the Disney releases that folks like to dunk on here would fall into that category.

Yeah, as I said earlier, all of that is just not my scene. For movies, or for anything really. But I'm glad it's available for adults who seek out or enjoy that sort of entertainment.

That's a shame. If the real you is even a little bit like your online persona, I think you'd find it quite funny.

 

[Advisable Joseph]

Here's a reminder that movies make money on much more than just box office

James Cameron Cuts The Net As King Of The World Wins Deadline’s 2022 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament: The Data Behind The Dollars

James Cameron is king of the world again for winning Deadline's 2022 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament with Avatar: The Way of Water.

deadline.com

‘Little Mermaid’ Swimming Against Strong Tides At Overseas Box Office, Leaving Break-Even In Question

In a rare situation for a Disney tentpole, particularly a live action title based on a treasured animated classic, 'The Little Mermaid' may lose money.

deadline.com

So losses aren't as cataclysmic as they may seem. The 3x rule is right out!

Also, Deadline's figures seem to only include the initial revenue for streaming video, etc. when comparing their results to researchers who looked at the actual finances of films, who saw much a higher total revenue to box office ratio, as discovered in:





I have to imagine lifetime stream revenue from Encanto must be truly massive, considering how much movies can make from streaming up front, apparently.

 

[tcool123]

Do we have any other information on the financials of the Disney 100 series that released throughout 2023? That would likely be a better benchmark for Soul than current releases not available on streaming.

Otherwise, we could look at the Fathom Events gross and see that their Classics series grossed 4.6 million over a year, or 383,000 a movie.

Otherwise other rerelease successes from 2023 would be Jurrasic Park (2.9 million), Hocus Pocus (3.2 millionish), Nightmare Before Christmas (7 millionish), Coraline (7 million), Return of the Jedi (7.2 million), Titantic (15 million).

Based on the limited knowledge we have it seems like rereleases definitely have a cap and most often don’t make more than a million unless you’re one of those select fee that broke though.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Here's a reminder that movies make money on much more than just box office

James Cameron Cuts The Net As King Of The World Wins Deadline’s 2022 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament: The Data Behind The Dollars

James Cameron is king of the world again for winning Deadline's 2022 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament with Avatar: The Way of Water.

deadline.com

‘Little Mermaid’ Swimming Against Strong Tides At Overseas Box Office, Leaving Break-Even In Question

In a rare situation for a Disney tentpole, particularly a live action title based on a treasured animated classic, 'The Little Mermaid' may lose money.

deadline.com

So losses aren't as cataclysmic as they may seem. The 3x rule is right out!

Also, Deadline's figures seem to only include the initial revenue for streaming video, etc. when comparing their results to researchers who looked at the actual finances of films, who saw much a higher total revenue to box office ratio, as discovered in:





I have to imagine lifetime stream revenue from Encanto must be truly massive, considering how much movies can make from streaming up front, apparently.

I agree. Given enough time, most Disney movies will bring in more money than they cost to make in market, when streaming, Blu ray, merch. income is included.

The industry must stop using the box office as the only measuring stick. Until the industry stops using this measuring stick, Disney will continue to "look" like losers.

Until the industry stops using this measuring stick , if Disney does not want to look like a loser, Disney must create movies that make money at the box office. It is possible, see Godzilla minus one.

In my opinion, Disney's problem is more about out of control budgets of their movies and not the content of their movies.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Still no one saw Poor Things. Night Swim and FNAF did far better for horror movies. It isn't even talked about in the horror movie forums I visit. But if you need that kind of movie images in your mind....

It isn’t a horror movie. It’s an art-house Oscar contender from a critically acclaimed director, which has always been handled differently than wide-release cheap horror slop like FNaF and Night Swim.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I agree. Given enough time, most Disney movies will bring in more money than they cost to make in market when streaming, Blu ray, merch. income is included.

The industry must stop using the box office as the only measuring stick. Until the industry stops using this measuring stick, Disney will continue to "look" like losers.

Until the industry stops using this measuring stick , if Disney does not want to look like a loser, Disney must create movies that make money at the box office. It is possible, see Godzilla minus one.

In my opinion, Disney's problem is more about out of control budgets of their movies and not the content of their movies.

The industry does not use box office as the only measuring stick. Posters on the internet with no understanding of how Hollywood works use box office as the only measuring stick.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Poor Things just got 11 Bafta nominations, second only to Oppenheimer at 13.

 

[Disstevefan1]

The industry does not use box office as the only measuring stick. Posters on the internet with no understanding of how Hollywood works use box office as the only measuring stick.

One thing is for sure, Disney doesn't

 

[Andrew C]

One thing is for sure, Disney doesn't

Merch!!!

 

[Disstevefan1]

Merch!!! (fingered crossed )

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Oh, and tell that to Hasbro