Phroobar
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Hasbro seems to be going more online only with Hasbro Pulse for Star Wars, Marvel, Transformers, GI Joe, Nerf since nothing is moving or getting restocked at retail.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Casper Gutman
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On the topic of Baftas, Disney got the most nominations of any studio, 22 - one more than Uni. The fact doesn’t mean a whole lot for box office, but it certainly shows that the claims “Disney only produces garbage,” or “Disney is unique in not producing a varied slate of films,” are hysterical garbage.
TP2000
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I appreciate you explaining the reasons why Poor Things was labeled with MPAA warnings like "Gore" and "Disturbing Material" and "Graphic Nudity", but none of that is my scene for entertainment regardless of its context or humor attached.
My "online persona" is a funny line. I'm just me, checking in on the gang here and typing after a light lunch. My real life spoken language has a few saltier words sprinkled in, but I've learned to omit them when typing here because they just get auto deleted or censored by a moderator anyway.
Disstevefan1
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Disney does not produce garbage.
They produce movies that costs more to make and market than they bring in at the box office.
brideck
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My "online persona" is a funny line. I'm just me, checking in on the gang here and typing after a light lunch. My real life spoken language has a few saltier words sprinkled in, but I've learned to omit them when typing here because they just get auto deleted or censored by a moderator anyway.
Eh, I wouldn't use that term exclusively for you. We're all modified versions of who we are in real-life when we show up at a place like this, for better or worse.
Not worthy of its own post because its not Disney, but... I really hate how casually the term "bomb" is thrown around online in general, but if it's going to apply to anything that's in theaters right now that would be The Book of Clarence. It was supposed to open in the UK this weekend, but was just unceremoniously yanked completely off the release schedule there as of today, and it won't be long for our theaters either. Glad I'm going to check it out tonight.
Disney Irish
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Just out of curiosity what would you consider as the most risque movie of all your favorites?I appreciate you explaining the reasons why Poor Things was labeled with MPAA warnings like "Gore" and "Disturbing Material" and "Graphic Nudity", but none of that is my scene for entertainment regardless of its context or humor attached.
My "online persona" is a funny line. I'm just me, checking in on the gang here and typing after a light lunch. My real life spoken language has a few saltier words sprinkled in, but I've learned to omit them when typing here because they just get auto deleted or censored by a moderator anyway.
TP2000
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We sort of had a conversation about that a few months as I remember, as there is a difference between "flop" and "bomb". I think "bomb" is the worst scenario, while "flop" is less disastrous but still money losing for the studio. Personally, I would use this scale to describe those box office terms, with recent Disney analogies;
Bomb = Embarassingly bad box office, losing almost the entire budget for the studio, mostly ignored by the marketplace; Strange World, Haunted Mansion, Chevalier, Wish
Flop = Weak box office, losing at least $100 Million for the studio, no real pop-culture impact and/or mentioned derisively; Indy 5, The Marvels, Ant Man, A Haunting In Venice
Broke Even = Modest box office but not enough for any real profit, modest pop-culture impact but no real buzz; The Little Mermaid, The Boogeyman
Hit = Strong box office, made a clear profit of at least $25 Million, excited/positive pop culture buzz; Guardians 3
Blockbuster = Huge box office, made a strong profit of over $100 Million, the movie everyone's talking about: Barbie*
*No recent Disney analogy. When was Disney's last true blockbuster? The Black Panther? Frozen II?
Interesting question. Of my BluRay collection that I really enjoy?... I would list Valley Of The Dolls (sex, drug use, language, adult themes) and Airport (adult themes). Of the recent TV shows I've enjoyed immensely and rewatched?... Schitt's Creek (occasional adult themes, plus it's fun to say out loud) and Downton Abbey and The Gilded Age (adult themes). A few of my favorite Irwin Allen disaster movies I enjoy have some blood and violence in them, like Airport '75 and The Towering Inferno. I think the original Airport from 1969 was the best, and coincidentally least risque, out of the follow-ups later in the 70's.
I can't think of a single BluRay movie I own that has nudity, let alone "graphic nudity". Just not my scene on movie night.
I have a DVD of Return To The Valley Of The Dolls from 1970 which I only watched once. It's far more risque and profane than Valley Of The Dolls from 1966, but it's done so campy and shlocky that it was just humorous. Still, I wouldn't let a 12 year old watch either one. I would let a 15 year old watch Valley Of the Dolls, but I doubt they'd enjoy it unless the kid was gay.
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brideck
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If one were to feel the need to categorize such things I could get behind a scale that's something like what you suggest, although your examples seem a little haphazardly applied. Glancing at WW grosses, I'd think that Quantumania and A Haunting in Venice are somewhere more around the "Broke Even" category than where you have them, but that's neither here nor there.
I know this wasn't for me, but Ang Lee's L***, Caution (with a well-earned NC-17) is a dynamite film. I really wasn't expecting as much from it when our film club watched it a few years back.
BuddyThomas
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And I love this:
“On the industry front, the success of “Poor Things” and “All of Us Strangers” helped push Disney to 22 nominations, the highest of any distributor this year.”
BAFTA Film Awards Nominations: ‘Oppenheimer’ and ‘Poor Things’ Lead as ‘Barbie’ Falls Short
'Oppenheimer' and 'Poor Things' topped the BAFTA Film Awards nominations, while 'Barbie' came up short.
variety.com
Phroobar
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For me, I look at the parental guides on IMDB whenever I'm looking for something to watch. If it says R or TV-MA I need to know what I'm getting into here. We watch tv out in the open here and never on personal phones closed away. What would my wife say if she walked in on a show that I'm watching that has "Gore" and "Disturbing Material" and "Graphic Nudity"? We have little kids running around here too. Do I really need to watch a show where every other word is an F-bomb or worst?
TP2000
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That's a great question. But what is weird is that I can't find any box office info for those Disney 100 re-releases. They just don't show up in the box office stats, at least on The Numbers site that accurately tracked box office for other Disney re-releases in '23 like Hocus Pocus ($4.9 Million in '23 re-release) and Nightmare Before Christmas ($10.2 Million in '23 re-release).
And yet I don't remember seeing the announced Disney 100 re-releases in the box office data here for the past year, or anyone here mentioning they saw one of them in a theater.
Soul re-released in 1,350 theaters last weekend, and as of yesterday has $670,983 in box office. How many theaters did Moana re-release in three months ago? Allegedly, Moana was re-released for two weeks beginning Friday, October 13th. But it doesn't show up anywhere in the data for Saturday, October 14th. Or any date in late October. Weird.
Did this re-release schedule for Disney 100 even happen? Is it a victim of the Mandela Effect or something?
Domestic Box Office for Saturday, October 14th. Where's Moana?
8 Disney classics (Toy Story!) re-releasing in movie theaters for its 100th anniversary
Disney is re-releasing eight of its most beloved films in theaters this year for its 100th anniversary.
ftw.usatoday.com
BuddyThomas
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You’re allowed to watch whatever you want as an adult. You can watch quality R rated movies after the children go to bed.
TP2000
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My youngest relatives who I babysat occasionally growing up are now in the late 20's or early 30's. And children are not on my dinner party guest lists, so I don't have to worry about kids seeing what I'm watching. But even then, I steer clear of that type of entertainment. I just find it distasteful to watch. I prefer my movies to be witty and stylish and smart and light, with a few exceptions reserved for Alfred Hitchcock or the occasional film noir selection. (I just watched Joan Crawford in Queen Bee for the first time two weekends ago and enjoyed it!)
And the constant use of profanity in many movies, where almost all adjectives and even some pronouns are replaced by swear words, is generally just tacky in my opinion. I've been known to say a few of those words in my time, especially when I stub my toe on that attractive yet dangerous Danish modern bench I have at the foot of the bed for some stupid reason. But in general day-to-day conversation? No thanks, and I don't find it entertaining. I find it lazy and usually distasteful.
BuddyThomas
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My wife would probably watch it with me… but then again as an adult without kids I don’t pay attention to what something is rated and the rating does not affect the quality
Phroobar
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Who said the rating affects quality? You can watch whatever you want. Our house has these rules. I really don't need those kind of images burned into my mind.
BuddyThomas
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LOL
Disney Irish
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Interesting question. Of my BluRay collection that I really enjoy?... I would list Valley Of The Dolls (sex, drug use, language, adult themes) and Airport (adult themes). Of the recent TV shows I've enjoyed immensely and rewatched?... Schitt's Creek (occasional adult themes, plus it's fun to say out loud) and Downton Abbey and The Gilded Age (adult themes). A few of my favorite Irwin Allen disaster movies I enjoy have some blood and violence in them, like Airport '75 and The Towering Inferno. I think the original Airport from 1969 was the best, and coincidentally least risque, out of the follow-ups later in the 70's.
I can't think of a single BluRay movie I own that has nudity, let alone "graphic nudity". Just not my scene on movie night.
I have a DVD of Return To The Valley Of The Dolls from 1970 which I only watched once. It's far more risque and profane than Valley Of The Dolls from 1966, but it's done so campy and shlocky that it was just humorous. Still, I wouldn't let a 12 year old watch either one. I would let a 15 year old watch Valley Of the Dolls, but I doubt they'd enjoy it unless the kid was gay.
I asked because if your movie watching habit is primarily limited to movies from the 60s and 70s then it would make sense why you think Poor Things may not be your "scene".
But I would say give Poor Things a try at some point even with its description, you may find it has more in common with Valley of the Dolls than you think.
Disney Irish
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And this is part of the reason why The Numbers isn't used by most in the Industry, it doesn't track a lot of rereleases especially internationally.That's a great question. But what is weird is that I can't find any box office info for those Disney 100 re-releases. They just don't show up in the box office stats, at least on The Numbers site that accurately tracked box office for other Disney re-releases in '23 like Hocus Pocus ($4.9 Million in '23 re-release) and Nightmare Before Christmas ($10.2 Million in '23 re-release).
And yet I don't remember seeing the announced Disney 100 re-releases in the box office data here for the past year, or anyone here mentioning they saw one of them in a theater.
Soul re-released in 1,350 theaters last weekend, and as of yesterday has $670,983 in box office. How many theaters did Moana re-release in three months ago? Allegedly, Moana was re-released for two weeks beginning Friday, October 13th. But it doesn't show up anywhere in the data for Saturday, October 14th. Or any date in late October. Weird.
Did this re-release schedule for Disney 100 even happen? Is it a victim of the Mandela Effect or something?
Domestic Box Office for Saturday, October 14th. Where's Moana?
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8 Disney classics (Toy Story!) re-releasing in movie theaters for its 100th anniversary
Disney is re-releasing eight of its most beloved films in theaters this year for its 100th anniversary.
Well I am glad I am free from such rules in my own home