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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I have to imagine there's suddenly some serious rethinking and reworking of strategy going on in Emeryville this week, for the next two Pixar re-releases; Turning Red and Luca.

What were they trying to do with this re-release concept anyway? And now will Turning Red get the same 1,350 theaters that Soul did? Will there be a more noticeable marketing push, with Turning Red actors showing up on The Tonight Show early next month? And just how much damage has been done to the Pixar/Disney brand with family audiences?

I don't envy them in Emeryville and Burbank right now, a rough one-two gut punch of layoffs and Soul's box office response.

 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I have to imagine there's suddenly some serious rethinking and reworking of strategy going on in Emeryville this week, for the next two Pixar re-releases; Turning Red and Luca.

What were they trying to do with this re-release concept anyway? And now will Turning Red get the same 1,350 theaters that Soul did? Will there be a more noticeable marketing push with Turning Red actors showing up on The Tonight Show early next month? And just how much damage has been done to the Pixar/Disney brand with family audiences?

I don't envy them in Emeryville and Burbank right now, a rough one-two gut punch of layoffs and Soul's box office response.

They’re just trying go get money for nothing…taking a queue from Dire Straits
 

GimpYancIent

Well-Known Member
I just read an article that the Emmys set a new record for low ratings, which was previously set at last years show, and it has me wondering if people just don’t care about Hollywood anymore.

The article had some red carpet photos and I didn’t recognize half the actors, I also hadn’t seen the majority of the shows nominated… it has me wondering if the rise of streaming, the decrease in TV viewership, the decrease in theater revenue, and the popularity of sites like YouTube, ticktock, etc if Hollywoods glory days are in the rear view mirror.
Yes, Hollywood and its golden days are history. Things have moved on.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Interesting, they're getting ahead of the nominations this time around.

I can confirm that Poor Things is even coming to Sunset Stadium in St George, UT this weekend. Who'd have guessed?

Darnit, I already have plans to shampoo my hair this weekend. :(
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Yes, Hollywood and its golden days are history. Things have moved on.

Things have moved on, except for the studio budgets.

But I have a hunch that will be the story of 2024-25; massive downsizing and rethinking the actual needs of the business for the new reality that Hollywood, especially Disney, has been trying to ignore since 2020.
 

brideck

Well-Known Member
Darnit, I already have plans to shampoo my hair this weekend. :(

Don't worry, it'll probably be there for at least 2 or 3 weeks.

If people would like to support the good things that Disney is helping to get out into the world, now's your chance. Vote with your dollars and all that. Down with "bad" stories. Yay for good stories.
 

Phroobar

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Don't worry, it'll probably be there for at least 2 or 3 weeks.

If people would like to support the good things that Disney is helping to get out into the world, now's your chance. Vote with your dollars and all that. Down with "bad" stories. Yay for good stories.
I think the world is already doing that. Problem is Disney isn't making anything with "good" stories.
 

brideck

Well-Known Member
I think the world is already doing that. Problem is Disney isn't making anything with "good" stories.

Quick. What makes Poor Things a "bad" story?

In order to indicate a preference, people should show Disney which things of theirs they think are good, instead of just blindly boycotting everything or merely whinging indiscriminately about it on an online forum.
 
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TP2000

Well-Known Member
Don't worry, it'll probably be there for at least 2 or 3 weeks.

If people would like to support the good things that Disney is helping to get out into the world, now's your chance. Vote with your dollars and all that. Down with "bad" stories. Yay for good stories.

To be perfectly honest, I won't be seeing Poor Things. I wouldn't see any movie that is described by the MPAA with this disclaimer, as Poor Things has; "Rated R for strong and pervasive sexual content, graphic nudity, disturbing material, gore, and language."

I'm not a total prude (with old bar tabs to prove it), but that rating descriptor for Poor Things is just not my scene at all.

Gore? Disturbing Material? Graphic Nudity? (As opposed to what, tasteful nudity?) Um... I'm glad it's an artform available for those adults who enjoy that sort of thing, or find it attractive. But it's just not me. And I wish the cast and crew of Poor Things well for this upcoming awards season. :)
 

brideck

Well-Known Member
Gore? Disturbing Material? Graphic Nudity? (As opposed to what, tasteful nudity?)

Happy to walk anyone through it.

Gore because the premise is a modified Frankenstein's monster one, so there are cadavers and surgery, mostly with a whimsical visual tone.

Disturbing material because anything that involves suicide as a plot element earns that flag and the general (albeit ridiculous) premise of the movie (which I won't spoil here) would be pretty disturbing if it asked you to take it seriously at all.

Graphic nudity as opposed to partial nudity because it's not just women from the waist up. It is both nearly 100% used for laughs throughout the movie and to point out the ridiculousness of human nature/behavior.
 

BuddyThomas

Well-Known Member
Those awards shows have seen their ratings crash into the basement starting a decade ago. It's just a continuation of the trend that started in the mid 2010's.



Thank God it just wasn't me! I looked at some Emmy's red carpet photos after I made that wisecrack about the show being sponsored by Ozempic, and while all the actresses are now very thin, I didn't recognize any of them. And the shows they were noted for were foreign to me.



I spend so much time on YouTube now it's not even funny. I find the amateur niche content made by nerdy guys in their home office far more entertaining than the pro mass-audience stuff from Hollywood and New York. That said, I did just finish Season 2 of The Gilden Age on HBO Max, and I enjoyed it immensely. Christine Baranski in particular was a favorite in that show. But I promptly ditched HBO Max a month ago, and then paid $2.99 to watch the final episode of this season on YouTube. No need in paying for HBO Max any longer when Season 3 of that show is over a year away.
“All” the actresses are not “very thin”. Please stop spreading fake news all over the place.
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
Quick. What makes Poor Things a "bad" story?

In order to indicate a preference, people should show Disney which things of theirs they think are good, instead of just blindly boycotting everything or merely whinging indiscriminately about it on an online forum.
Sorry it isn't my kind of movie.
I'll refer you to the parents guide and see if Walt would have been proud to release this in his studio.


Also the fact it made only $17m in six weeks. Even Wish made $63m in 8 weeks. No one is going to see it.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Sorry it isn't my kind of movie.
I'll refer you to the parents guide and see if Walt would have been proud to release this in his studio.


Also the fact it made only $17m in six weeks. Even Wish made $63m in 8 weeks. No one is going to see it.
Walt has been dead for 58 years, also evoking him here doesn't make much sense as it wasn't released under the Disney or Buena Vista banners.

Also Disney has released films of similar graphic content over the years under its various banners so its not like this is the first time.

Lastly it was limited release until this upcoming weekend, so it was only going to get limited box office returns.
 

BuddyThomas

Well-Known Member
Sorry it isn't my kind of movie.
I'll refer you to the parents guide and see if Walt would have been proud to release this in his studio.


Also the fact it made only $17m in six weeks. Even Wish made $63m in 8 weeks. No one is going to see it.
I’m someone. I went to see it. So did thousands of others. It’s a front runner for Oscar noms and it will be just fine.
 
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Phroobar

Well-Known Member
Walt has been dead for 58 years, also evoking him here doesn't make much sense as it wasn't released under the Disney or Buena Vista banners.

Also Disney has released films of similar graphic content over the years under its various banners so its not like this is the first time.
Still no one saw Poor Things. Night Swim and FNAF did far better for horror movies. It isn't even talked about in the horror movie forums I visit. But if you need that kind of movie images in your mind....
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Still no one saw Poor Things. Night Swim and FNAF did far better for horror movies. It isn't even talked about in the horror movie forums I visit. But if you need that kind of movie images in your mind....
There were people that saw it, including myself and others in this thread. So this "no one saw it" is not correct.

Also Night Swim and FNAF had wider releases so of course they did better so far. We'll see what happens once it goes to a wider release, apparently starting this weekend.
 

BuddyThomas

Well-Known Member
Still no one saw Poor Things. Night Swim and FNAF did far better for horror movies. It isn't even talked about in the horror movie forums I visit. But if you need that kind of movie images in your mind....
People saw Poor Things. Period. And your comments about the content of the film mean absolutely nothing and are worthless since you did not see the film.
 
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