Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Willmark

Well-Known Member
It kind of feels like streaming is in the early “Amazon” stage, Amazon lost unbelievable amounts of money, for nearly a decade, before it finally became profitable, I remember thinking Bezos was crazy because it made no sense to me at the time but in hindsight it sure does now.

It’ll be curious to see how streaming is doing a decade from now.
1 billion a year is a rounding error to Apple when they have a market capitalization of 3.2 trillion. Tim Cook could probably suss that up from the couch cushions in Cupertino.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
But plenty of live-action characters don’t look like their cartoon counterparts. Emma Stone is obviously very far from the animated Cruella, and Elle Fanning really doesn’t look much like Aurora. That no-one raised any objections (at least on the basis of appearance) to their casting shows that it’s really ethnicity rather than resemblance that is the key factor here.

Regarding your broader point, there’s a long history around issues of representation that I think explains all too well why people of colour are entitled to react differently to instances of “race swapping” than those who objected to the casting of Berry or Zegler. Your asking where that difference lies is analogous to someone asking why there’s no Straight Pride.


Well put.

It’s also worth adding that Hollywood is entirely dependent on milking IPs from decades ago with remakes, sequels, etc. A great many of these IPs originated in a period when minorities were heavily marginalized in media. Given this, insisting that minorities cannot be cast in “white roles” is a way, intentionally or not, to continue the marginalization that defined the era in which the IP originated.
What's even more interesting is that we're almost to the 30th anniversary of Disney doing Cinderella with Brandy and Whitney Houston, which was pretty popular at the time. And there really wasn't anywhere near the uproar back then as we'd hear today. So its only bubbled to the surface in the last 10-20 years.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Looks like Captain America 4 may not even reach $200M domestic or $400M worldwide, which was The Eternals total gross, unadjusted for inflation.
Eternals (so far) did better internationally, but Cap4 already beat it domestically.

Its only $10M away from $400M WW and beating Eternals. It'll continue to be in theaters for a few more weeks, so it has a shot to make that up as its still pulling in multiple Millions on weekends. So with a combination of domestic and international I think it could be there by next weekend.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I deleted my comment…. As I realized this is not the forum for it…I just find it odd that people focus on 1 guy who sets fire to 1 Tesla car dealership in Las Vegas as if he represents sn entire party

You should find a better news outlet if you think it's only one guy at one dealership.

It's now been multiple fire bombings, vandalizations, keying and swatting, dealership protests, flaming molotov cocktails thrown at dealership windows, etc. at dozens of locations across the US and Canada in the past few weeks. Here's just one in Canada today, where 80 cars were vandalized at a Tesla dealership.



Next week, the "Tesla Takedown Day Of Action" is planned on March 29th for protests at 277 Tesla dealerships in the USA.

 
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Phroobar

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You should find a better news outlet if you think it's only one guy at one dealership.

It's now been multiple fire bombings, vandalizations, keying and swatting, dealership protests, flaming molotov cocktails thrown at dealership windows, etc. at dozens of locations across the US and Canada in the past few weeks. Here's just one in Canada today, where 80 cars were vandalized at a Tesla dealership.



Next week, the "Tesla Takedown Day Of Action" is planned on March 29th for protests at 277 Tesla dealerships in the USA.

Someone reads too much 4chan.
 
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TP2000

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Eternals (so far) did better internationally, but Cap4 already beat it domestically.

Its only $10M away from $400M WW and beating Eternals. It'll continue to be in theaters for a few more weeks, so it has a shot to make that up as its still pulling in multiple Millions on weekends. So with a combination of domestic and international I think it could be there by next weekend.

Here's how that matchup from 2021 looks, adjusted for inflation. It helps that Captain America 4 had a "modest" budget of "only" $180 Million. But breakeven for it doesn't look possible at this point.

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Disney Irish

Premium Member
Here's how that matchup from 2021 looks, adjusted for inflation. It helps that Captain America 4 had a "modest" budget of "only" $180 Million. But breakeven for it doesn't look possible at this point.

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Nowhere did I even mention breakeven, I was just responding to the poster who said Cap4 doesn't look to reach $400M and beat Eternals unadjusted. And based on where things are right now, and what its still getting every weekend both domestic and international, its very possible it breaks $400M and Eternals unadjusted.

As for breakeven, I would agree its not likely to do that based on where things sit right now.
 

BrianLo

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What's even more interesting is that we're almost to the 30th anniversary of Disney doing Cinderella with Brandy and Whitney Houston, which was pretty popular at the time. And there really wasn't anywhere near the uproar back then as we'd hear today. So its only bubbled to the surface in the last 10-20 years.

I like to swing back around to - can you imagine how poorly Mulan or Mrs. Doubtfire would do if released into the current environment? Meanwhile 70’s/80’s films are WILD.

Though slow progression of media self-censure is common for a developing electoral autocracy. I say that more from an academic lens, that’s generally what we are witnessing.
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
You should find a better news outlet if you think it's only one guy at one dealership.

It's now been multiple fire bombings, vandalizations, keying and swatting, dealership protests, flaming molotov cocktails thrown at dealership windows, etc. at dozens of locations across the US and Canada in the past few weeks. Here's just one in Canada today, where 80 cars were vandalized at a Tesla dealership.



Next week, the "Tesla Takedown Day Of Action" is planned on March 29th for protests at 277 Tesla dealerships in the USA.

Ok…. So your cherry picking….a few people is still not an entire party… not that I even trust what Bondi says

So…. There are plans for protests outside of Tesla dealers….The constitution says we are allowed to assemble and protest…. Does not mean people are going to be destructive to the showrooms…. But this is way outside of the rules here… so I am done
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Snow White is becoming the splash mountain of the movies and tv forum:
I agree with that on multiple levels lol. I can honestly say I prefer the cgi dwarfs to the Splash creepy critters.

Not sure how soon I’ll be able to compare the movies but from what I read the new one sounds lively.
 
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