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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

erasure fan1

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I think it’s also worth pointing out there’s a difference between not liking a casting decision and not liking that person personally.

I hated the decision to cast Bailey as TLM but I don’t have any hard feelings towards her, if she was cast in a new movie tomorrow I’d have no reservations seeing it. I can’t say the same for Zegler, there’s actual animosity there, and thats not from the casting choice but because of her comments and attitude.

The initial controversy was surrounding the casting choice and towards Disney, it was her comments that turned that animosity towards herself though.
Exactly, and that's what I'm saying. Just because you don't like the casting, doesn't make you some racist. That's ridiculous. A lot pf people share your opinion on mermaid and now snow white. Only someone wanting a controversy would think your opinion is hate motivated. But here we are. Trust me, there are people out there that are hate motivated in that way. But I don't see it in you or a lot of other posters here.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Exactly, and that's what I'm saying. Just because you don't like the casting, doesn't make you some racist. That's ridiculous. A lot pf people share your opinion on mermaid and now snow white. Only someone wanting a controversy would think your opinion is hate motivated. But here we are. Trust me, there are people out there that are hate motivated in that way. But I don't see it in you or a lot of other posters here.
There are so many posts in this thread. Were you unhappy with the casting when Rachel Zegler was first announced? Did you see her in something else and think she wasn’t right for the part?
 

MagicMouseFan

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Exactly, and that's what I'm saying. Just because you don't like the casting, doesn't make you some racist. That's ridiculous. A lot pf people share your opinion on mermaid and now snow white. Only someone wanting a controversy would think your opinion is hate motivated. But here we are. Trust me, there are people out there that are hate motivated in that way. But I don't see it in you or a lot of other posters here.
I was banned to the corn field because I believed (and still do) that one casting was gimmicky and I was called a racist.
It was unbelievable.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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This can’t be great news for Hollywood. Apple has some great shows.

It kind of feels like streaming is in the early “Amazon” stage, Amazon lost unbelievable amounts of money, for nearly a decade, before it finally became profitable, I remember thinking Bezos was crazy because it made no sense to me at the time but in hindsight it sure does now.

It’ll be curious to see how streaming is doing a decade from now.
 

easyrowrdw

Well-Known Member
The initial attacks on Zegler were based on her race. Obscure comments she had made to the foreign press were dug up and amplified because of her race.

I don’t think you’re naive.
Most of Zegler’s comments that I’ve seen were made at D23 to the companies like Extra or in interviews with traditional English-language publications. Are you confusing her with Mackie by chance?
 

MagicMouseFan

Well-Known Member
That’s not right. I disagree that Disney’s motive for that casting was a gimmick but I can see why others would think differently.
yeah… I also view most of these live action remakes as gimmicky.
I was super excited a live action LILO and Stich was coming out. Love the posters, Super Bowl commercial was great and then I saw the trailer.
It’s the exact same story as the cartoon I saw a 100 times with my kids.
I get it.. business gotta make a buck.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
yeah… I also view most of these live action remakes as gimmicky.
I was super excited a live action LILO and Stich was coming out. Love the posters, Super Bowl commercial was great and then I saw the trailer.
It’s the exact same story as the cartoon I saw a 100 times with my kids.
I get it.. business gotta make a buck.
I liked the live-action remakes that I saw, especially The Little Mermaid, because they add to the story and flesh out the characters. Others dislike them for the same reason. What I have a hard time wrapping my head around is how passionate people get about any movie.
 

MagicMouseFan

Well-Known Member
I liked the live-action remakes that I saw, especially The Little Mermaid, because they add to the story and flesh out the characters. Others dislike them for the same reason. What I have a hard time wrapping my head around is how passionate people get about any movie.
We are passionate because we are all movie geeks.
We wouldn’t be on this board if we weren’t.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
Most of Zegler’s comments that I’ve seen were made at D23 to the companies like Extra or in interviews with traditional English-language publications. Are you confusing her with Mackie by chance?
You are correct about where she made the comments. However, the key point is that she made the comments in SEPTEMBER 2022. The controversy about them erupted in late JULY and AUGUST 2023 when a group of highly motivated individuals unearthed and amplified them. For almost a year the comments went almost entirely unnoticed. The hate against her has been the product of a very intentionally manufactured campaign.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
There are so many posts in this thread. Were you unhappy with the casting when Rachel Zegler was first announced? Did you see her in something else and think she wasn’t right for the part?
For myself, I honestly don't care that she was cast as snow white as there was very little chance I would see it in the theater anyway. The only thing I have seen her in was Shazam. And she was fine. It was a mediocre film but she wasn't in anyway the reason it wasn't great.

What I can say, is I understand why people who thought she should look close to the original character didn't like the casting. and I don't think everyone who thinks that is flat out racist. The problem in my eyes was so many people were never going to give her a chance because of the things she said. So she could have had a, WOW she was really good in the roll, moment. But that ship most likely sailed with her comments.
 

brideck

Well-Known Member
What I can say, is I understand why people who thought she should look close to the original character didn't like the casting. and I don't think everyone who thinks that is flat out racist.

Considering fandoms lose their sanity when someone has the "wrong" hair color for a role from a book, I would agree with this, although it certainly can give the appearance that someone is racist in cases like this. [Note: This sort of behavior is also nonsense to me. Assuming there was ever an actual character there to begin with, hair color is more or less never a defining attribute, and is easily written around.]

If they're out there putting Snow Brown into every comment thread they can find? They've taken any doubt away.
 

AdventureHasAName

Well-Known Member
It kind of feels like streaming is in the early “Amazon” stage, Amazon lost unbelievable amounts of money, for nearly a decade, before it finally became profitable, I remember thinking Bezos was crazy because it made no sense to me at the time but in hindsight it sure does now.

It’ll be curious to see how streaming is doing a decade from now.
I think it's actually in the mid-Amazon stage - meaning that Amazon (Netflix) already won and all the other competitors haven't realized it yet and continue to toss away money chasing a dream that won't happen.
 

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