Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Vegas Disney Fan

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I expected the box office on this to closely mirror that of the Little Mermaid remake, if it actually starts to an opening weekend less than half of what the Little Mermaid made I think my prediction it loses $100 million may have been far too optimistic.

I still think movies live or die based on word of mouth now, so only time will tell, but this estimate may have me revising my prediction to a $200 million loss.
 

DKampy

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Oh, look, a reasonable article.

That’s what happens when you read articles in the trades rather than click bait grifters

Reading that it is a musical is reason enough to cast Zegler…. She has a great voice… Also I think she looks the part in the trailers
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I expected the box office on this to closely mirror that of the Little Mermaid remake, if it actually starts to an opening weekend less than half of what the Little Mermaid made I think my prediction it loses $100 million may have been far too optimistic.

I still think movies live or die based on word of mouth now, so only time will tell, but this estimate may have me revising my prediction to a $200 million loss.
A lot of kids (mine included) grew up with the animated Little Mermaid and the music is fantastic. I’m not surprised it would have a much bigger audience from the start.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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A lot of kids (mine included) grew up with the animated Little Mermaid and the music is fantastic. I’m not surprised it would have a much bigger audience from the start.
Kind of makes you question why they approved such a large budget if it wouldn’t have a huge nostalgia draw and would be fighting an uphill battle just to break even.

At a budget of $100-125 million it probably made sense, at (the now normal) budget of $200-250 million it feels like this was doomed before they even started shooting.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Kind of makes you question why they approved such a large budget if it wouldn’t have a huge nostalgia draw and would be fighting an uphill battle just to break even.

At a budget of $100-125 million it probably made sense, at (the now normal) budget of $200-250 million it feels like this was doomed before they even started shooting.
I agree. I’m not sure who Disney thought the audience would be for this film.

The only bright spot I can see is that Greta Gerwig is listed as one of the screenwriters. I liked Barbie so I’m sort of excited to see if this is good also.
 

Farerb

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Kind of makes you question why they approved such a large budget if it wouldn’t have a huge nostalgia draw and would be fighting an uphill battle just to break even.

At a budget of $100-125 million it probably made sense, at (the now normal) budget of $200-250 million it feels like this was doomed before they even started shooting.
There was no reason whatsoever for this film to be so CGI heavy like Little Mermaid or The Lion King. All they had to do was find a beautiful location for the forest and cast real actors for the dwarfs.
 

Agent H

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We know they cut "Someday My Prince Will Come" and "One Song" because romance and longing for love is problematic nowadays, but what's really the excuse for "With a Smile and a Song"? I guess looking at the goodness of the world after being sad and frightened is also problematic. We live in cynical times.
Where do you get that romance is problematic these days? I see plenty of those kinds of stories in tv and movies.
 

BrianLo

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Oh, look, a reasonable article.


Reasonable article. Anemic start. They are hoping for an Elemental/Mufasa now. Improbable, but they've done it a few times in the last two years.

Kind of makes you question why they approved such a large budget if it wouldn’t have a huge nostalgia draw and would be fighting an uphill battle just to break even.

At a budget of $100-125 million it probably made sense, at (the now normal) budget of $200-250 million it feels like this was doomed before they even started shooting.

This one still comes from the before times (Chapek) when spending recklessly on content was in vogue. I think only James Cameron and Russo brothers are getting open ended cheques from Iger these days.

The only bright spot I can see is that Greta Gerwig is listed as one of the screenwriters.

I forgot about that! Though I'm not sure whose version we are really getting.
 

brideck

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The only bright spot I can see is that Greta Gerwig is listed as one of the screenwriters. I liked Barbie so I’m sort of excited to see if this is good also.

Yeah, and the other screenwriter wrote Secretary (among other things) back in the day, so this has the potential to be a good, more modern adaptation, but it's probably been tinkered with a bunch in post. Marc Webb is also an interesting choice as director. It's been awhile since there's been anything on the big screen from him, but he certainly knows how to shoot music videos.

Between that and new original songs by the Dear Evan Hansen/Greatest Showman/Spirited team there really should be a workable approach to marketing this that they could find. If they've stuck to their guns, it should absolutely appeal to the female-forward audience that Barbie and Wicked have capitalized on.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Between that and new original songs by the Dear Evan Hansen/Greatest Showman/Spirited team there really should be a workable approach to marketing this that they could find. If they've stuck to their guns, it should absolutely appeal to the female-forward audience that Barbie and Wicked have capitalized on.
In the last 2 weeks I’ve seen more commercials for this movie than any other Disney movie in probably the last 5 years, I’ve been watching High Potential on Hulu though so maybe that’s skewed what I’ve seen, and all the commercials I’ve seen have been very nostalgic in their approach, had I not read about the changes here I’d assume this was a more or less shot for shot remake… nothing about the commercials I’ve seen have given me a Barbie or Wicked vibe.
 

brideck

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In the last 2 weeks I’ve seen more commercials for this movie than any other Disney movie in probably the last 5 years, I’ve been watching High Potential on Hulu though so maybe that’s skewed what I’ve seen, and all the commercials I’ve seen have been very nostalgic in their approach, had I not read about the changes here I’d assume this was a more or less shot for shot remake… nothing about the commercials I’ve seen have given me a Barbie or Wicked vibe.

I don't disagree, which makes me wonder what on earth they're doing. Modern Disney is nothing if not always afraid to stick to their convictions (or initial ideas, if you'd rather I didn't personify them as having beliefs at all).
 

Chi84

Premium Member
In the last 2 weeks I’ve seen more commercials for this movie than any other Disney movie in probably the last 5 years, I’ve been watching High Potential on Hulu though so maybe that’s skewed what I’ve seen, and all the commercials I’ve seen have been very nostalgic in their approach, had I not read about the changes here I’d assume this was a more or less shot for shot remake… nothing about the commercials I’ve seen have given me a Barbie or Wicked vibe.
If the reviews reveal it’s just a shot for shot remake I’ll probably wait to see it at home.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
So let’s get this straight: the original film is “creepy,” so they get the screenwriter of Secretary? Bang up job everyone.

Greta Gerwig has already said her involvement was minimal on this.
So screenwriters are only the sum of one single work from 23 years ago? Also who said the original film was "creepy"?

You're just looking for reasons to be upset.
 

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