Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

DarkMetroid567

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Don't bother. The movie will be a huge success.
Yeah I think odds are looking good with presales now. I do still think it’ll live and die by reception but it is good to see Disney keeping budgets low, especially with the rumors of this one having something absurd like $300+. Bodes decently well for Snow White too?
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Yeah I think odds are looking good with presales now. I do still think it’ll live and die by reception but it is good to see Disney keeping budgets low, especially with the rumors of this one having something absurd like $300+. Bodes decently well for Snow White too?
Yes, which is why I always tell others to wait until the legitimate Hollywood trades report on the budgets. Anything else is just rumor that could have gone through the rumor mill so many times that its not accurate if it ever was to begin with.
 

erasure fan1

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Except in this context it matters even less. Disney getting rid of an ice cream sandwich affects someone on this site directly which is why its discussed, Snow White's discussion affects no one directly.
Yea, but it still doesn't matter. Just because it might matter less, in your opinion, doesn't mean the ice cream sandwich discussion actually matters. Congratulations you're the fastest sloth. Either way they're both slow. And that's the point. If it doesn't matter to you, that's when you drop engagement with that topic. Many threads have multiple discussions arcs going on at one time.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Yea, but it still doesn't matter. Just because it might matter less, in your opinion, doesn't mean the ice cream sandwich discussion actually matters. Congratulations you're the fastest sloth. Either way they're both slow. And that's the point. If it doesn't matter to you, that's when you drop engagement with that topic. Many threads have multiple discussions arcs going on at one time.
In this context I discuss the overall box office, if you notice I haven't really engaged all that much other than a comment or two in the other parts of this story since the Snow White thread was shutdown even though others have.
 

LSLS

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I'm not, Winter Soldier had a $170M budget, and this is pretty similar to that movie. So it probably started at $150M or so and went up from there with the reshoots.
Maybe similar, but inflation is much higher, and the reshoots were EXTENSIVE for this one. Let me stress, I'm not saying the numbers are wrong (or even insinuating it), I completely believe that's the numbers, it's just a lot less than I expected, which is a good thing for Marvel.
 

DisneyWarrior27

Active Member
Well, lookie here.

Looks like the rumors from Jeff Sneider and World of Reel about Captain America: Brave New World’s budget being $350-$400M (which I never believed, BTW) were total BS, as buried in the Hollywood Reporter’s article saying the film will open to $90M (I think 3-day), the budget of the film is $180M.

As much as I still don’t think this film’ll be good, this is just further evidence that those lied about this film’s budget and length of its reshoots cuz a) they are trying to kill the MCU out of hate for it saving movie theaters, b) to further lie about the MCU money-laundering for their budgets, and c) because they want Sam Wilson (Anthony Mackie) to come out of this film with a failure just like they had on The Marvels and how it put Brie Larson’s future as Captain Marvel/Carol Danvers into question.

Also, I must admit, I’m impressed Marvel Studios finally had a film with a budget under $200M for the 1st time since Shang-Chi. I honestly thought it would be #Thunderbolts* since that movie has very little CGI, real sets, real stunts, and actual work put into it on a limited budget (at least until we get to Sentry). But hey, I ain’t mad about this at all knowing this just put this movie’s far more extreme haters in their place in terms of making sure they “check their source next time,” as Mr. Peter Parker told the Daily Bugle to do back in #SpiderMan3, a lesson most people her and beyond should do.

Now don’t get me wrong. I still have concerns on some of what was reported on this movie being correct in the case of what happens to Giancarlo Esposito’s character Sidewinder, how Tim Blake Nelson’s Samuel Sterns/The Leader isn’t the movie as much, and how this movie MIGHT feel more like a movie that is World War Hulk set-up than a true blue Captain America movie about Sam Wilson proving his worth, given the film had 6-9 writers on it, but at least this revelation goes a long way to debunk some lies of what was claimed about this movie to shut those liars up.

So, now we’ll see in 3 weeks what critics have to say about this movie and if what they say either confirms the rumors of this movie’s quality being poor or debunks it.

Only time will tell…
 

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Vegas Disney Fan

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As posted in the Mufasa thread, thanks to @Moka , it has officially crossed over $600M -



This means there is no doubt, it crossed the breakeven point (even though it likely did $100M ago).

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This movie looked doomed after the first couple weeks, this seems to be a growing trend, movies that start bad but keep trudging along to eventually become profitable.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Maybe similar, but inflation is much higher, and the reshoots were EXTENSIVE for this one. Let me stress, I'm not saying the numbers are wrong (or even insinuating it), I completely believe that's the numbers, it's just a lot less than I expected, which is a good thing for Marvel.
True inflation is higher but it’s still comparable, which is why I’m not surprised. Even if it was said it was $200M I wouldn’t be surprised as that is what we’ve come to expect from Disney.

But overall I am happy to see they are reducing budgets.
 

Disney Irish

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This movie looked doomed after the first couple weeks, this seems to be a growing trend, movies that start bad but keep trudging along to eventually become profitable.
What it shows is don’t count the Mouse out until it’s cross the finish line. This is why all the commentary and calling movies failures before they even complete their theatrical run is silly and in many cases down right insulting.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Btw, @BrianLo correct me if I’m wrong, but outside of their small budget Searchlight movies (which we don’t know the budgets on anyways) Disney had a 2024 with no movie loses. I don’t think any other studio can boast such a claim last year, or really any year in modern times.
 

Disstevefan1

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This movie looked doomed after the first couple weeks, this seems to be a growing trend, movies that start bad but keep trudging along to eventually become profitable.
Goes to show you, if Disney can keep a movie in the Theater long enough it should break even or make money.
Disney is powerful and can make deals to keep movies in theaters as long as possible.

Lion King is a super popular IP. Its too bad there are so few attractions in the parks.
 

BrianLo

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Btw, @BrianLo correct me if I’m wrong, but outside of their small budget Searchlight movies (which we don’t know the budgets on anyways) Disney had a 2024 with no movie loses. I don’t think any other studio can boast such a claim last year, or really any year in modern times.

Correct! And really the only searchlight film that isn’t micro would be a complete unknown and that just picked up an s-tonne of Oscar buzz, so I expect that will keep legging along.

They might have lost money on the Pixar re-releases if we get into the weeds, depends on how much they spent on marketing. But that’s micro and I really don’t think in normal circumstances we talk about re-releases.

It was an unusually successful 2024 rebound. Mufasa, IO2, Apes all definitely exceeded my expectations from this point last year; and we didn’t even know about Moana 2 yet.
 

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