Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

CinematicFusion

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Disney Irish

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Correct! And really the only searchlight film that isn’t micro would be a complete unknown and that just picked up an s-tonne of Oscar buzz, so I expect that will keep legging along.

They might have lost money on the Pixar re-releases if we get into the weeds, depends on how much they spent on marketing. But that’s micro and I really don’t think in normal circumstances we talk about re-releases.

It was an unusually successful 2024 rebound. Mufasa, IO2, Apes all definitely exceeded my expectations from this point last year; and we didn’t even know about Moana 2 yet.
What a difference a year makes! Iger for all his flaws have turned around Disney and put Studios back on a path for success.
 

BrianLo

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This is not exhaustive, but a quick highlights tour of some of the biggest flops in what is considered a quite successful decade theatrically for Disney.

As @MisterPenguin has highlighted often in the past, there’s a relatively common denominator, I’m sure you can spot it.

2010-Prince of Persia/The Sorcerers Apprentice
2011-Mars Needs Moms
2012-John Carter
2013-The Lone Ranger
2014-Muppet Most Wanted/Million dollar arm (modest misses)
2015-Tomorrowland/Good Dinosaur
2016-Alice Through the Looking Glass/The BFG
2017-Cars 3 (very modest miss)
2018-A Wrinkle in Time / Solo
2019-Dark Phoenix - though otherwise sort of not their fault and an epic year
 
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Vegas Disney Fan

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What a difference a year makes! Iger for all his flaws have turned around Disney and put Studios back on a path for success.
I give him a ton of credit for slimming down the release schedule to relatively safe releases, Disneys reputation for quality storytelling was severely damaged at the end of 2023, I think it’s largely been restored now, he absolutely deserves praise for that because another 2023 may have taken a decade to recover from. It’ll be interesting to see if that reputation and success carries over to next year with a more varied and questionable release schedule.

I think this is true with D+ also, still stumbled with some of the shows but overall the quality over quantity approach worked pretty well.
 
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Disney Irish

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I give him a ton of credit for slimming down the release schedule to relatively safe releases, Disneys reputation for quality storytelling was severely damaged at the end of 2023, I think it’s largely been restored now, he absolutely deserves praise for that because another 2023 may have taken a decade to recover from. It’ll be interesting to see if that reputation and success carries over to next year with a more varied and questionable release schedule.
He would have been given the blame had Disney had another dismal year, so he deserves the credit when they have success too. And 2024 was highly successful. Also outside of Mufasa I believe most every other film was started or finished after his return. Moana 2 was most certainly his decision to turn it from a streaming show to a theatrical release.

Edit - I see you edited your post to remove your question on how much credit Iger deserves.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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He would have been given the blame had Disney had another dismal year, so he deserves the credit when they have success too. And 2024 was highly successful. Also outside of Mufasa I believe most every other film was started or finished after his return. Moana 2 was most certainly his decision to turn it from a streaming show to a theatrical release.

Edit - I see you edited your post to remove your question on how much credit Iger deserves.
I’m trying to cut down on my “feedback sandwich” posts which include negativity in an otherwise positive post. I’m so used to doing it I usually don’t realize I did it until I get called on it or reread my post though
 

DKampy

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Maybe similar, but inflation is much higher, and the reshoots were EXTENSIVE for this one. Let me stress, I'm not saying the numbers are wrong (or even insinuating it), I completely believe that's the numbers, it's just a lot less than I expected, which is a good thing for Marvel.
As Disney Marvel went on the OG Avenger cast got more and more expensive…. Without any original cast members… I am sure they can save a bit of money there… one plus in going with a Mackey Captain America
 

brideck

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Correct! And really the only searchlight film that isn’t micro would be a complete unknown and that just picked up an s-tonne of Oscar buzz, so I expect that will keep legging along.

I think The First Omen (20th Century) was probably a little in the negative, no? That was actually a surprising miss for me at the time.

But obviously, everything else was a win on the scorecard.
 

BrianLo

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I think The First Omen (20th Century) was probably a little in the negative, no? That was actually a surprising miss for me at the time.

But obviously, everything else was a win on the scorecard.

I was throwing that into the micro and very unknown break even category. If it lost money after streaming revenue, it’s almost a rounding error.

Certainly we can put a caveat that this year had no massive bombs, along with maybe 2017 if we’re being generous to the Cars franchise as a whole.
 

Disney Irish

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I think The First Omen (20th Century) was probably a little in the negative, no? That was actually a surprising miss for me at the time.

But obviously, everything else was a win on the scorecard.
I'd technically put First Omen under Searchlight even though it was released under the 20th Century banner due to its very low budget. If it hadn't been part of the Omen franchise it would have been under the Searchlight banner.
 

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