Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Ghost93

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Speaking of competition. At least Warner isn’t on the hook for Horizon.

We’ll see of course given the totally erratic tracking of IO2, Horizon is something I feel tracking will poorly metrically understand.

IO2 widely expected to three-peat. But Quiet Place could randomly surprise and it is taking the premium screens away.
I'm low-key excited for Horizon. Releasing a movie and its sequel in theaters two months apart is a ballsy strategy, but it has piqued my interest.

I'm sure the new Quite Place will be a solid movie as well.
 

TP2000

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A complete dearth of anything has proceeded this. When Apes is clinging to the fourth position with a B cinema score in week 7 of release, you know the competition is a mess.

It's a shame Disney didn't have another completely finished tentpole family movie to release this summer... something like the live action remake of Snow White that's allegedly just sitting on a shelf all completed until next spring. 🧐

No shade to Apes, but it’s clearly taking advantage of this years poor release calendar and poorly connecting competitor movies.

Speaking of Apes 9: Weekend at Charlton's, here's how that movie's financials look at the global box office after 7+ weeks in theaters. It's looking like it will not quite hit profitability.

Apes 9: $160 Production, $80 Marketing, $99 Domestic, $88 Overseas = $53 Million Loss thus far

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TP2000

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1 billion by end of the third weekend?



Let's do a status report on Inside Out 2's global box office, shall we? I imagine, before I pull up the data and do icky math, that it's already broken even and pulling in profit by a landslide...

Inside Out 2: Production $200, Marketing $100, Domestic $233, Overseas $165 = $98 Million Profit, With A Bullet!

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BrianLo

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It's a shame Disney didn't have another completely finished tentpole family movie to release this summer... something like the live action remake of Snow White that's allegedly just sitting on a shelf all completed until next spring. 🧐



Speaking of Apes 9: Weekend at Charlton's, here's how that movie's financials look at the global box office after 7+ weeks in theaters. It's looking like it will not quite hit profitability.

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Apes 9: $160 Production, $40 Marketing, $99 Domestic, $88 Overseas = $13 Million Loss thus far

Fixed, again. You keep reverting things. You cannot keep including post theatrical marketing if you want to report and calculate theatrical profit only.

Ya it’s not quite theatrically profitable, give or take some hollywood math. But this one very clearly pushing in the black in the back end. I’m sure it has another 10 million or so randomly in the tank worldwide, so it will theatrically approach break even for all intents and purposes.
 

Farerb

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It's a shame Disney didn't have another completely finished tentpole family movie to release this summer... something like the live action remake of Snow White that's allegedly just sitting on a shelf all completed until next spring. 🧐

Snow White is not completed. They're currently doing reshoots.
 

Casper Gutman

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I'm low-key excited for Horizon. Releasing a movie and its sequel in theaters two months apart is a ballsy strategy, but it has piqued my interest.

I'm sure the new Quite Place will be a solid movie as well.
I really can't see any reason to be excited for Horizon. The trailers seem to promise a narratively unfocused film with uninspired cinematography and bored, bland performances. Its a film with no clear reason to exist. Reviews reinforce this impression.

I love westerns and would be very happy to see the genre make one of its periodic resurgences, so I'm particularly irked by such a high profile but apparently artless example of the genre.
 

Ghost93

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I really can't see any reason to be excited for Horizon. The trailers seem to promise a narratively unfocused film with uninspired cinematography and bored, bland performances. Its a film with no clear reason to exist. Reviews reinforce this impression.

I love westerns and would be very happy to see the genre make one of its periodic resurgences, so I'm particularly irked by such a high profile but apparently artless example of the genre.
I'm just saying I'm excited about seeing how the gimmick of releasing a movie and its sequel in the same summer pays off. The movie might be awful, but I admire bold swings, even if they totally miss the mark.

MaXXXine is my most anticipated movie of the summer, however.
 

Casper Gutman

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I'm just saying I'm excited about seeing how the gimmick of releasing a movie and its sequel in the same summer pays off. The movie might be awful, but I admire bold swings, even if they totally miss the mark.

MaXXXine is my most anticipated movie of the summer, however.
I'm very interested in MaXXXine as well.

As for Horizon's gimmick, the problem is that it feels less like a cagey, risky, calculated attempt to outmaneuver an unpredictable box office and more like an act of unfathomably oblivious hubris. Yes, sticking firecrackers up your nostrils and lighting them while declaring yourself the King of Greenland is audacious, but I'm not very interested because I have a pretty clear idea of what's going to happen.

Now, releasing a really GOOD western in 2024 would be a fascinating and unpredictable experiment.

(And let's not forget Costner wants to make two more Horizons).
 

Disstevefan1

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The movie is a financial success that all that matters to me. I am looking forward to watching it when it goes to streaming.



Good movies MAKE MONEY! and they made one here. GOOD SHOW DISNEY!
 
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BrianLo

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I’m becoming more curious on how trailer response is tracking towards intention. It’s the only metric that aligned with Inside Out 2’s gangbuster overperformance.

Deadline is placing Twisters around 45-50. The trailer uptake would place it more like 40 compared to Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Twisters brings on the stereotypical 200m tentpole budget.

It’s funny because Deadline is calling that a hit, is it? I think it’s going to need a 60-70 million debut or over index internationally.
 

Ghost93

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I'm very interested in MaXXXine as well.

As for Horizon's gimmick, the problem is that it feels less like a cagey, risky, calculated attempt to outmaneuver an unpredictable box office and more like an act of unfathomably oblivious hubris. Yes, sticking firecrackers up your nostrils and lighting them while declaring yourself the King of Greenland is audacious, but I'm not very interested because I have a pretty clear idea of what's going to happen.

Now, releasing a really GOOD western in 2024 would be a fascinating and unpredictable experiment.

(And let's not forget Costner wants to make two more Horizons).
Lol, I guess I'm just the opposite in how I feel. I don't disagree that it's hubris. But the hubris of it all is what makes me interested because it could so easily go south! It's like James Cameron filming Avatar 2, 3 and part of 4 at the same time (although fortunately for Cameron, it appears that the gamble paid off).
 

Ghost93

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A Quiet Place: Day One was a pretty good movie, but much more somber and character-driven than I think people will expect. It's about a woman with a terminal illness trying to find a reason to go on. I have no idea how well it will perform at the box office.
 

Prince-1

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A Quiet Place: Day One was a pretty good movie, but much more somber and character-driven than I think people will expect. It's about a woman with a terminal illness trying to find a reason to go on. I have no idea how well it will perform at the box office.

It was a really good movie and it is doing quite well at the box office.

 

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