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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

DKampy

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Unless something changes tomorrow, Furiosa is looking like it may come in under $30M domestic for the holiday weekend. Not good at all....

Also Kingdom of Apes should hit $300M WW by tomorrow. So far it seems to be the only summer hit until Inside Out 2 and Deadpool and Wolverine come out.
I am not a fan but a question mark for me is the next Bad Boys film… It will not be a billion dollar movie like Inside Out and Deadpool has the potential to…but I could see it being an Apes size hit… the last one did better than I thought it would and right now it is tracking to open between 50 and 70
 

Communicora

Premium Member
Has Mad Max ever been a hot franchise you can bank on…I liked Furiosa… But I go weekly and open minded about any genre if it’s good… However Mad Max has always felt more like a film with a cult following… I am a Gen xer who grew up in the 80’s and I don’t ever remember a Mad Max film putting up blockbuster numbers… Heck Fury Road was beat by a Pitch Perfect sequel… I feel like people overestimated the pull of a Mad Max film
Right? I don't think it's a bankable IP like some others. The effects also look pretty bad compared to the earlier films in the series. The CGI was terrible in the trailer.
 

brideck

Well-Known Member
Minions 2 did quite well in the 'post-pandemic' box office world (summer 2022). So I'd be very surprised if it completely underperformed all of a sudden in 2024.

Minions 2 had the viral benefit of youngsters going out to see it all gussied up. I'm not sure that sort of thing will be recreated here.

 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I am not a fan but a question mark for me is the next Bad Boys film… It will not be a billion dollar movie like Inside Out and Deadpool has the potential to…but I could see it being an Apes size hit… the last one did better than I thought it would and right now it is tracking to open between 50 and 70
The issue with Bad Boys is this will be the first one post-slap for Will Smith. It’s unknown how audiences will react to a new movie of his, we’re about to find out.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
Minions 2 did quite well in the 'post-pandemic' box office world (summer 2022). So I'd be very surprised if it completely underperformed all of a sudden in 2024.

I was getting suspicious that animated family moving going was completely broken by streaming, but Inside Out 2 prospects seem to be calming that down.

Though the expectations on DM4 would be quite high. It will be a disappointment for them and show signs of fatigue if it's not clearing 750-800 million as it's a pretty consistent franchise for them to hit around a billion.

It is the sixth movie with Minions in it. I don't think fatigue is avoidable and I don't necessarily thinking it not hitting 1, 2 or 3 means it is a disappointment.

Still plenty bankable.
 

DKampy

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The issue with Bad Boys is this will be the first one post-slap for Will Smith. It’s unknown how audiences will react to a new movie of his, we’re about to find out.
That is the reason I said it is a question in my head…although I think most people tend to have short term memories
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
That is the reason I said it is a question in my head…although I think most people tend to have short term memories
Celebrity scandals are different though, when a celebrity breaks the public trust it tends to take a long time before their image is rehabilitated and the public is willing to forgive and trust them again. Its why PR firms exist in the first place, to ensure that any scandal is either squashed ahead of time or spun in the favor of the celebrity when it happens.

So we'll see if the audience has forgiven Will.
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
Celebrity scandals are different though, when a celebrity breaks the public trust it tends to take a long time before their image is rehabilitated and the public is willing to forgive and trust them again. Its why PR firms exist in the first place, to ensure that any scandal is either squashed ahead of time or spun in the favor of the celebrity when it happens.

So we'll see if the audience has forgiven Will.
Oh I definitely could see Audiences turning away… especially on Will… as he had some negative publicity even before the slap… so it is definitely a wait and see
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
It is the sixth movie with Minions in it. I don't think fatigue is avoidable and I don't necessarily thinking it not hitting 1, 2 or 3 means it is a disappointment.

Still plenty bankable.

Ya that’s the reason I gave that parameter. I think a reduction to 750 million is totally fine, maybe expected. It will still make oodles of money at 500 million, but that would be quite a precipitous drop and would surely be disappointing for them.

I have no real reason to personally think it won’t hit up there, though it seems other posters are more negative on its prospects.
 

TP2000

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Hi, gang. I hope everyone had a great Memorial Day Weekend! 🇺🇸 I learned yesterday, the hard way, that a vinegar pre-soak is needed to take out BBQ sauce stains from white linen shorts. 🤣

Here's the Box Office thru Sunday, although today's numbers to be reported will outperform the average Monday obviously. It was a rather miserable holiday weekend at the Box Office. The Top 5 movies had a combined box office of about $86 Million, compared to the $150 Million that last year's Memorial Day Weekend Top 5 box office produced.

So far, nothing is getting Americans out in droves to the theaters yet this summer.

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TP2000

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Has Mad Max ever been a hot franchise you can bank on…I liked Furiosa… But I go weekly and open minded about any genre if it’s good… However Mad Max has always felt more like a film with a cult following…

Good question. I don't remember seeing the Mad Max movies in the 80's, just not my scene then or now, so I had to Google up the franchise.

There's only 4 movies, that came after the surprise hit from the low budget first movie. For this latest reboot, according to the articles Google provided there's pushback from fans that they turned Mad Max into a movie about a girl.

Here's how the five movies stack up at the box office, adjusted for inflation. The '24 version with the girl in it looks like it's going to do less than half the box office that the '15 reboot sequel did at the domestic and global box office.

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TP2000

Well-Known Member
Garfield really just performed opening weekend superior to any family film Disney has had in recent years including Wish and Elemental.

Here's how the box office panned out for Garfield through Sunday of Memorial Day Weekend. What is most shocking is that Garfield had a production budget of $60 Million, less than a third the production budget for Wish or Elemental.

Barring a complete collapse of its global box office, Garfield will be very profitable, unlike Wish or Elemental.

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brideck

Well-Known Member
What is most shocking is that Garfield had a production budget of $60 Million, less than a third the production budget for Wish or Elemental.

So... you want Disney to save a bunch of money on their production budgets by including "several instances of shamelessly conspicuous product placement" in their animated features? [Source: Variety] Because that's at least part of how Garfield kept its budget to something you find reasonable.
 

Miss Rori

Well-Known Member
So... you want Disney to save a bunch of money on their production budgets by including "several instances of shamelessly conspicuous product placement" in their animated features? [Source: Variety] Because that's at least part of how Garfield kept its budget to something you find reasonable.
I don't think Disney could make that work anyway, all the product placement for other Disney movies in Wish didn't work. :p
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
So... you want Disney to save a bunch of money on their production budgets by including "several instances of shamelessly conspicuous product placement" in their animated features? [Source: Variety] Because that's at least part of how Garfield kept its budget to something you find reasonable.

No, I don't even have any idea what that means.

Does Garfield have a bunch of commercials in it, or sponsor tie-ins? Like when the Stevens' on Bewitched drove nothing but Chevrolets for 9 years and their first commercial break always went into a Chevy ad? Or when Sly Stallone in Demolition Man drove swanky futuristic Oldsmobiles (RIP) and ate at Taco Bell while singing the Jolly Green Giant jingle?

My point is just that it's a heckuva lot easier to make a profit from the box office receipts when your modestly successful family film only has a $60 Million budget, compared to a modestly successful family film that has a $200 Million budget.
 

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