Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[TP2000]

I would expect Oppenheimer to have the biggest pop of the award movies… It got the biggest award of the night… If I was an Academy award voter… I would of even voted for Oppenheimer… It was my number 1 movie for 2023… but that does not say that Poor Things was any less great…it was firmly in my top 10 for the year at #4

Didn’t you see what happened yesterday? The “Oscar bump” at the box office suddenly became a streaming boost.

For those keeping score at home, here is what the "Oscars Bump" looked like so far this week for Poor Things. Plus Oppenheimer, which anecdotally was the only Oscars thing that popped up on my phone's news feed Monday morning as Best Picture winner.

The Morning After The Oscars - Monday March 11th

Tuesday, March 12th

Wednesday, March 13th

Thus far since the Oscars on Sunday, Poor Things has done $127,421 in box office ticket sales, and Oppenheimer has done $113,016 in box office ticket sales.

Granted, Poor Things is 3 months old and Oppenheimer is now 8 months old, but if there ever was such a thing as an Oscars Bump at the box office after the ceremony, it doesn't look like a very impactful phenomenon here in the 2020's.

 

[BuddyThomas]

For those keeping score at home, here is what the "Oscars Bump" looked like so far this week for Poor Things. Plus Oppenheimer, which anecdotally was the only Oscars thing that popped up on my phone's news feed Monday morning as Best Picture winner.

The Morning After The Oscars - Monday March 11th
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Tuesday, March 12th
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Wednesday, March 13th
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Thus far since the Oscars on Sunday, Poor Things has done $127,421 in box office ticket sales, and Oppenheimer has done $113,016 in box office ticket sales.

Granted, Poor Things is 3 months old and Oppenheimer is now 8 months old, but if there ever was such a thing as an Oscars Bump at the box office after the ceremony, it doesn't look like a very impactful phenomenon here in the 2020's.

As has already been explained to you multiple times:

It. Is. On. A. Streaming. Service.

 

[TP2000]

As has already been explained to you multiple times:

It. Is. On. A. Streaming. Service.

So there's no such thing as an Oscars Bump anymore? I was told there would be an Oscars Bump.

The way to show that their films no longer fail in the marketplace is to have them start making films that succeed in the marketplace. Especially the films that cost them $150 to $300 Million to produce.

Because their current financial trajectory on those mega-budget films is not sustainable. Luckily, Bob seems to have finally acknowledged that. Now let's see if they can turn the ship by 2025 or '26.

 

[Tha Realest]

As I noted a few months ago…

The Oscar bump phenomenon has been tapering off in recent years, becoming particularly acute during Covid years. For example, yes, Oscar nominated films made $82M in box office between the nomination announcements and the Oscar’s - and 7/8 of that yield was from Avatar 2.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/03/10/oscar-box-office-bump-shrinking.html

The reduction in theaters - not expansion - is a worrisome trend. Weeks ago some here explained Poor Things would be going wider about now - not contracting. The subject matter of the film also makes it a bit less accessible to the viewing public at large.

“It’ll get a big Oscar bump!” is starting to sound like “Haunted Mansion is going to get a big Halloween bump.”

I ended that post with,

“It’ll get a big Oscar bump!” is starting to sound like “Haunted Mansion is going to get a big Halloween bump.”

 

[LittleBuford]

Didn’t you see what happened yesterday? The “Oscar bump” at the box office suddenly became a streaming boost.

That’s what the data shows. Do you doubt it?

 

[Tha Realest]

That’s what the data shows. Do you doubt it?

This is a box office thread, and the “Oscar bump” we had been discussing related to box office boost for Oscar winners.

I haven’t seen any data on Poor Things viewership. Where is that?

 

[LittleBuford]

This is a box office thread, and the “Oscar bump” we had been discussing related to box office boost for Oscar winners.

OK, but you referred with scepticism to the idea of a steaming bump, as if it’s not a real thing. I was just pointing out that the data show that it is.

 

[Tha Realest]

OK, but you referred with scepticism to the idea of a steaming bump, as if it’s not a real thing. I was just pointing out that the data show that it is.

I was pointing out the goalpost changes. Where’s the data on Poor Things?

 

[TP2000]

For no good reason, I just Googled the words "Oscars Bump" under the news tab, three full news cycles after the Oscars.

All Google gave me were a half dozen stories about an expecting actress named Vanessa Hudgens who wore a rather lovely and simple maternity dress to the Oscars last Sunday. That's what an Oscars Bump is in 2024 apparently.

Vanessa Hudgens Debuts Baby Bump at the 2024 Oscars Red Carpet

Hudgens is hosting the red carpet pre-show alongside Julianne Hough.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

But when I scrolled down a bit past all the maternity-wear articles, I did find this info. And it's fascinating! A reckoning is coming to the Oscars telecast based on its dwindling ratings, when the current TV contract is up for renewal in '28.

Michael Cieply: Deal Anxiety – Why The Oscar Bump Isn’t Enough

The Oscar audience was up slightly in 2024, but an Academy looking toward new long-term TV and venue contracts needs more.

deadline.com

 

[LittleBuford]

I was pointing out the goalpost changes. Where’s the data on Poor Things?

I wasn’t talking about Poor Things in particular. I don’t doubt more people will stream it as a result of the Oscars, though I think we’ll have to wait a bit for that data to become available.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Lewis Black isn't replaced, he is back as Anger.

The only two that didn't return are Mindy Kaling and Bill Hader (as Disgust and Fear respectively), both for contract disputes I believe.

I must have heard the voiceover wrong then…it sounded like a female voice over anger…but I probably wasn’t paying close enough attention

 

[Disney Irish]

For no good reason, I just Googled the words "Oscars Bump" under the news tab, three full news cycles after the Oscars.

All Google gave me were a half dozen stories about an expecting actress named Vanessa Hudgens who wore a rather lovely and simple maternity dress to the Oscars last Sunday. That's what an Oscars Bump is in 2024 apparently.

Vanessa Hudgens Debuts Baby Bump at the 2024 Oscars Red Carpet

Hudgens is hosting the red carpet pre-show alongside Julianne Hough.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

But when I scrolled down a bit past all the maternity-wear articles, I did find this info. And it's fascinating! A reckoning is coming to the Oscars telecast based on its dwindling ratings, when the current TV contract is up for renewal in '28.

Michael Cieply: Deal Anxiety – Why The Oscar Bump Isn’t Enough

The Oscar audience was up slightly in 2024, but an Academy looking toward new long-term TV and venue contracts needs more.

deadline.com

This really shows you don't pay attention to anything Disney, Vanessa Hudgens is a former Disney child actress.

 

[Disney Irish]

I wasn’t talking about Poor Things in particular. I don’t doubt more people will stream it as a result of the Oscars, though I think we’ll have to wait a bit for that data to become available.

We only have to wait 3-4 weeks until we get the data from Nielsen on top 10 streaming.

 

[Disney Irish]

I must have heard the voiceover wrong then…it sounded like a female voice over anger…but I probably wasn’t paying close enough attention

You probably heard the new character Anxiety, who is voiced by Maya Hawke, daughter of Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman and star of Stranger Things.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You probably heard the new character Anxiety, who is voiced by Maya Hawke, daughter of Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman and star of Stranger Things.

Must have

I’ll rewatch the trailer

They’re not gonna jump the shark and have bing bong back- are they?

 

[celluloid]

As has already been explained to you multiple times:

It. Is. On. A. Streaming. Service.

Oppenheimer is/was as well?

Plenty of movies can be performing well post Oscar Bumps on both.

Like, plenty of Oscar wins back in the day we're at rental locations before streaming services and theaters would still see bumps.

On the recent discussion here of Inside out 2:
Inside out 2 is brining in too many new characters is my takeaway(only going by the trailer thus far besides losing important voice actors from cast)
Box office will definitely be interesting with animation being on a rise for some studios and hurting badly for others.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Oppenheimer is/was as well?

Plenty of movies can be performing well post Oscar Bumps on both.

Like, plenty of Oscar wins back in the day we're at rental locations before streaming services and theaters would still see bumps.

On the recent discussion here of Inside out 2:
Inside out 2 is brining in too many new characters is my takeaway(only from trailer besides losing important voice actors from cast)
Box office will definitely be interesting with animation being on a rise for some studios and hurting badly for others.

Inside out 2 is a huge title for Disney

So 2023 was an unmitigated disaster…but it could be a one off?

Elemental underperformed…but hung around and scratched and clawed its way back to almost level.

Will inside out keep momentum from that?

I doubt it’s a billion dollar film for Pixar…but in that next bracket below would be huge

 

[celluloid]

Inside out 2 is a huge title for Disney

So 2023 was an unmitigated disaster…but it could be a one off?

Elemental underperformed…but hung around and scratched and clawed its way back to almost level.

Will inside out keep momentum from that?

I doubt it’s a billion dollar film for Pixar…but in that next bracket below would be huge

I was shocked not to see a trailer for it before Kung Fu Panda 4 for the target marketing going heavy now. A lot of animation in the next six months though.

 

[DKampy]

Oppenheimer is/was as well?

Plenty of movies can be performing well post Oscar Bumps on both.

Like, plenty of Oscar wins back in the day were at rental locations before streaming services and theaters would still see bumps.

Yes I expected Oppenheimer to get a bump… but I don’t know how big of a bump it got… as I would not of been surprised if it flew past Poor things… as it won the big award (best film) but it does not appear to be doing any better than Poor Things is doing currently… adding quite a bit more theaters will certainly bump a film… I think if it was not for the Oscars Poor Things would certainly drop off a lot more as tends to happen once a film
Moves to streaming

It’s not the same as back in the day… when people don’t have to leave their couch and can watch a movie at home for no extra charge

 

[celluloid]

Yes I expected Oppenheimer to get a bump… but I don’t know how big of a bump it got… as I would not of been surprised if it flew past Poor things… as it won the big award (best film) but it does not appear to be doing any better than Poor Things is doing currently… adding quite a bit more theaters will certainly bump a film… I think if it was not for the Oscars Poor Things would certainly drop off a lot more as tends to happen once a film
Moves to streaming

It’s not the same as back in the day… when people don’t have to leave their couch and can watch a movie at home for no extra charge

Irrelevant to what Buddy just posted. He claimed Poor things did not get a bump because it is available on streaming.

The fact that people don't have to leave their couch, but people still did for Oppenheimer and The Holdovers back says that people are watching it from both sources.

Peacock actually gets you two Oscar bump movies we are discussing here. And both had huge theater increase. If people don't get off their couches much anymore, but still did even when they can just watch both on a streaming service...that tells you how Poor things did not benefit theatrically as.kuch from this.

Oppenheimer today snuck just below Poor Things as it grew since yesterday's amount.(An amazing 299 percent from the bump it already has Monday and Tuesday post Oscars) I suspect there is a chance by weekend it will stay right below it or pass Poor Things. Also take into account even more impressive as before The Oscars, Oppenheimer was one of the top seen films of the year and grossed over three times it's budget domestically and towards a billion internationally.