Phroobar
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While that might be true, Migration is still trending up and it has been out for a month less than Wish.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Casper Gutman
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That chart seems to be domestic box office. How is that relevant to a discussion of worldwide box office?
Domestic sure… but I believe Wish could still Be trending upwards worldwide… I read an article yesterday( which is why I looked up what the box office worldwide was) that was discussing how well Wish was doing when compared to here…especially in Europe… the article also specifically called out the UK saying it dropped something like only 12% this weekend
Sirwalterraleigh
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Wish has made $240,000,000 worldwide
It sucks…it’s over…move on.
Can we pivot to making bold statements about frozen 5 or Toy Story 8?
Too much negative energy spawning from the truth around here these days
Namaste
It sucks…it’s over…move on.
Can we pivot to making bold statements about frozen 5 or Toy Story 8?
Too much negative energy spawning from the truth around here these days
Namaste
I'm your huckleberry. This is real quick and dirty, sourced from weekly snapshots of Wikipedia edits. Y-axis is millions USD.
Migration would need at least 4 more weeks of solid returns to overtake Wish given the current trends. Given the lack of releases until Kung Fu Panda 4 arrives in 6 weeks, I guess anything's possible, but extrapolating out I'd guess that Wish will end up on top by about $10M-$15M overall. The Trolls line is weird looking because it released everywhere overseas first (reflected in the week 1 total), so virtually all of the growth shown in the chart is from the US release.
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Disstevefan1
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Speaking of the gross box office, Wish has made 240 million. Disney gets about half of that so that's about 120 million.
To make and market Wish, it cost TWDC at the low end, about 275 million.
TP2000
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Or put another way, since Migration had a production budget that was almost one third of the bloated budget for Wish...
Migration needs another $10 Million in global box office to break even.
Wish needs another $384 Million in global box office to break even.
Which movie executive would you rather be right now? A Migration exec waiting two weeks for break even, or a Wish exec telling Bob your movie lost over $175 Million at the box office? Pick one.
Wish: Production $200, Marketing $100, Domestic B.O. Take $38, Overseas B.O. Take $70 = $192 Million Loss
Migration: Production $72, Marketing $35, Domestic B.O. Take $61, Overseas B.O. Take $42 = $5 Million Loss
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TP2000
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Except, as seen above with that data, there is a huge difference in box office results from a movie that cost $200 Million to make versus a movie that cost $72 Million to make.
Especially when one movie (Wish) was hyped for several years in advance and marketed heavily as the 100th Anniversary Celebration! of a once-beloved American icon, and the other much cheaper movie (Migration) was just a fun throwaway kids movie for Christmas school vacation.
And I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that Migration even had tacky duck poop jokes in it. Right?
Disstevefan1
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Animaniac93-98
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You could say the same thing about Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, which has made way more than all 3...but like Wish will still end up losing money.
Animaniac93-98
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Migration had a $12 million opening day weekend, but has now grossed over $100 million and is still in the top 5 at the domestic box office. It has played better than expected (again, because they were so low to begin with), and its relatively low budget will ensure it squeaks out a profit.
BuddyThomas
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Wish now exists as a movie. It will continue to earn money throughout the years to come, just like every other Disney movie. Its initial box office is not the only money it will ever earn.
Sirwalterraleigh
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It’s a day ending in “y”
BuddyThomas
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I just want to reiterate how absolutely fantastic Poor Things is. It deserves every nomination that it received. Obviously, Oppenheimer is a lock for Best Picture, but wow, Poor Things is so amazing. Lily Gladstone is expected to win for Best Actress but Emma Stone actually deserves it.
crispy
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Except, as seen above with that data, there is a huge difference in box office results from a movie that cost $200 Million to make versus a movie that cost $72 Million to make.
Especially when one movie (Wish) was hyped for several years in advance and marketed heavily as the 100th Anniversary Celebration! of a once-beloved American icon, and the other much cheaper movie (Migration) was just a fun throwaway kids movie for Christmas school vacation.
And I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that Migration even had tacky duck poop jokes in it. Right?
Agreed. It's not a huge victory that Wish has a better worldwide box office. There is a reason why powerhouse football schools don't tear down the goalposts when they eke out a win against a cupcake team they were supposed to beat...they should beat them because they have the name and the resources to do it. Disney's much touted 100th anniversary movie that costs $200 million should be killing the competition. The fact that it barely surpassed Trolls 3 should be embarrassing, not a reason to celebrate.
Also, Migration still hasn't released in a couple of big international markets. It still has a few weeks to go in the theaters.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Wish was rejected
There’s all kindsa maneuvering round he’ah that somehow it’s not…it will get better…it will be a “sleeper” or “legacy”
Hit…
But none of that is correct.
The title of the thread is BOX OFFICE. That is the financial success or failure of the releases.
Clear fail here. In a year of clear fails.
They best do better.
Fast.
TP2000
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Oh, really? Well that will be fun to watch in February at least. It should be interesting if Migration actually makes money at the box office and Wish loses 175 Million or so.
And here I thought all we'd have to talk about in February is Turning Red doing $600,000 per weekend.
Advisable Joseph
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Not sure why people still think movies only make money at the box office after the analysis from Deadline I posted earlier.
Advisable Joseph
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Here's a reminder that movies make money on much more than just box office
James Cameron Cuts The Net As King Of The World Wins Deadline’s 2022 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament: The Data Behind The Dollars
James Cameron is king of the world again for winning Deadline's 2022 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament with Avatar: The Way of Water.deadline.com
‘Little Mermaid’ Swimming Against Strong Tides At Overseas Box Office, Leaving Break-Even In Question
In a rare situation for a Disney tentpole, particularly a live action title based on a treasured animated classic, 'The Little Mermaid' may lose money.
So losses aren't as cataclysmic as they may seem. The 3x rule is right out!
Also, Deadline's figures seem to only include the initial revenue for streaming video, etc. when comparing their results to researchers who looked at the actual finances of films, who saw much a higher total revenue to box office ratio, as discovered in:
I have to imagine lifetime stream revenue from Encanto must be truly massive, considering how much movies can make from streaming up front, apparently.